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Troy Smith.......Demands Trade Now?

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Dec 29, 2009 10:09 PM
Troy Smith is a backup and always will be be.
Dec 29, 2009 10:09pm
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sportchampps

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Dec 30, 2009 12:11 AM
the browns should totally go after another local boy instead of spending their money on the best players out there. the NFL is about winning not hiring local talent.
Dec 30, 2009 12:11am
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elbuckeye28

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Dec 30, 2009 2:16 AM
DaBrowns41 wrote:
hrspeedmerchant wrote: Picture Troy running the West Coast offense. He'd be perfect in that situation.
What poor decision making and lack of great accuracy?

Smith would not help the Cleveland QB situation out at all.

Smith is not a WCO QB. He's more of a down field attack. Think San Diego's system.
He made good decisions and was accurate in college. I'm curious to as what you base your assessments off of. Not saying he will be accurate and make good decisions, but when you make statements like that, it's hard to take your assessments seriously.
Dec 30, 2009 2:16am
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Dec 30, 2009 9:32 AM
Can't say as i blame him, however the grass is not always greener on the other side
Dec 30, 2009 9:32am
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Dec 30, 2009 9:55 AM
DaBrowns41 wrote: What poor decision making and lack of great accuracy?

Smith would not help the Cleveland QB situation out at all.

Smith is not a WCO QB. He's more of a down field attack. Think San Diego's system.
1. Probably true. Not the best decision maker and not pinpoint accurate.
2. False. Quinn cannot hit 5 yd slants and 10 yd outs with any accuracy. Smith while not perfect, would be much better at these throws than Quinn. IMO the reason the Browns don't go downfield as much as other teams is because Quinn can't throw the short passes with enough accuracy to give the coaches any confidence to air it out. Smith might open that up some. Overall I think Smith greatly improves the Browns at QB.
3. Couldn't agree more. pair him up with an elite WR like Moss or TO (or Ginn at OSU, not Ginn in Miami) and let him heave it down field.
Dec 30, 2009 9:55am
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DaBrowns41

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Dec 30, 2009 11:06 AM
elbuckeye28 wrote:
DaBrowns41 wrote:
hrspeedmerchant wrote: Picture Troy running the West Coast offense. He'd be perfect in that situation.
What poor decision making and lack of great accuracy?

Smith would not help the Cleveland QB situation out at all.

Smith is not a WCO QB. He's more of a down field attack. Think San Diego's system.
He made good decisions and was accurate in college. I'm curious to as what you base your assessments off of. Not saying he will be accurate and make good decisions, but when you make statements like that, it's hard to take your assessments seriously.
Brady Quinn, Charlie Frye, Jamarcus Russell, etc. were all guys that were pretty accurate in college.

The difference is that Smith played in a vertical passing game (like a mini-Air Coryell), and threw the ball past defenders quite a bit with speed receivers like Holmes, and Ginn.

He struggled more passing horizontally, which is why TE's weren't used nearly as much as in previous years, not to mention he had Beanie and Pittman to help him out in the run game and he could make plays on the run.

In the WCO, you have to be great at reading the defenses, making quick passes after the 3-5 step drop, and throwing the ball in tight spaces. He's not accurate enough to do that.

Hope that helps.
Dec 30, 2009 11:06am
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DaBrowns41

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Dec 30, 2009 11:07 AM
j_crazy wrote:
DaBrowns41 wrote: What poor decision making and lack of great accuracy?

Smith would not help the Cleveland QB situation out at all.

Smith is not a WCO QB. He's more of a down field attack. Think San Diego's system.
1. Probably true. Not the best decision maker and not pinpoint accurate.
2. False. Quinn cannot hit 5 yd slants and 10 yd outs with any accuracy. Smith while not perfect, would be much better at these throws than Quinn. IMO the reason the Browns don't go downfield as much as other teams is because Quinn can't throw the short passes with enough accuracy to give the coaches any confidence to air it out. Smith might open that up some. Overall I think Smith greatly improves the Browns at QB.
3. Couldn't agree more. pair him up with an elite WR like Moss or TO (or Ginn at OSU, not Ginn in Miami) and let him heave it down field.
See the post directly below yours to see my reasoning as to why Smith would make no difference.
Dec 30, 2009 11:07am
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Citybuck

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Dec 30, 2009 1:48 PM
This will be real interesting to see where he ends up at. Are any teams really interested in him ?
Dec 30, 2009 1:48pm
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Al Capone

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Dec 30, 2009 2:15 PM
Cant imagine him starting for any team next year.
Dec 30, 2009 2:15pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Dec 30, 2009 2:17 PM
Troy Smith should just be happy he has a job in the NFL. You're not going to start anywhere else. Hold your clipboard and retire healthy and young.
Dec 30, 2009 2:17pm
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Dec 30, 2009 2:18 PM
Al Capone wrote: Cant imagine him starting for any team next year.
I can't either. That is why he needs to stay put in Baltimore.
Dec 30, 2009 2:18pm
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Al Capone

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Dec 30, 2009 2:20 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: Troy Smith should just be happy he has a job in the NFL. You're not going to start anywhere else. Hold your clipboard and retire healthy and young.
And wealthy.
Dec 30, 2009 2:20pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Dec 30, 2009 2:23 PM
Al Capone wrote: And wealthy.
That's part of retiring.

Seriously though.. he's in a perfect situation. He can have a 15-20 year career and retire in his 40's and not have back and knee problems or brain problems... sure he wont be the richest guy around, but he wont have to look for a 9-5 either.
Dec 30, 2009 2:23pm
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Dec 30, 2009 2:25 PM
Yes God forbid the guy is competitive and wants the chance to lead a team because he knows he can. I applaud him for wanting to take the initiative to say "I want to be the guy". As for all of you guys who are knocking him and his abilities don't worry, he's heard that shit at every stage of his career and it hasn't bothered nor slowed him down. It didn't at Glenville, it didn't at Ohio State, it won't in the NFL.
Dec 30, 2009 2:25pm
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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 30, 2009 3:18 PM
If anyone thinks that he is a better QB than Brady Quinn OR Derek Anderson,they're ignorant

If Holmgren trades for him and starts him...he should be fired on the spot
Dec 30, 2009 3:18pm
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Heretic

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Dec 30, 2009 3:20 PM
It might be physically impossible to not be better than Quinn or Anderson.
Dec 30, 2009 3:20pm
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Nate

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Dec 30, 2009 3:28 PM
Honestly, I would pass on Smith.
Dec 30, 2009 3:28pm
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krazie45

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Dec 30, 2009 3:36 PM
Elliot Stabler wrote: If anyone thinks that he is a better QB than Brady Quinn OR Derek Anderson,they're ignorant
Well I'm not sure who you've watched but I've seen all three play, in the NFL, and have determined that he is better than both of them. He has a better arm than Quinn (not to mention more mobile), he is more accurate than Anderson (also more mobile). Hell, he's NEVER thrown an interception in the NFL.

Personally I think you're ignorant if you think Quinn or Anderson is better...and I'm a Browns fan.
Dec 30, 2009 3:36pm
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bigdaddy2003

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Dec 30, 2009 4:07 PM
Yeah, I would 100 percent take him over Quinn or Anderson.
Dec 30, 2009 4:07pm
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Nate

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Dec 30, 2009 4:10 PM
Troy Smith isn't going to equate to anymore more wins than what Anderson and Quinn produce unfortunately. They need more than Troy Smith.
Dec 30, 2009 4:10pm
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Dec 30, 2009 4:15 PM
Troy Smith's career stats.............3TD's, 1 Int, 2 rushing TD's and 3 fumbles.
Dec 30, 2009 4:15pm
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Dec 30, 2009 4:24 PM
Elliot Stabler wrote: If anyone thinks that he is a better QB than Brady Quinn OR Derek Anderson,they're ignorant

If Holmgren trades for him and starts him...he should be fired on the spot
holmgren will do what he did with hasselback in seattle.

ladies and gentlemen the starting QB for your 2010 Cleveland Browns, Seneca Wallace.
Dec 30, 2009 4:24pm
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charliehustle14

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Dec 30, 2009 4:26 PM
I'd take him over Quinn or Anderson.

I'd love to have him in Oakland. A Gradkowski, Losman, Smith QB battle would be interesting. I don't include Russell because with wishful thinking, he won't be there next season.
Dec 30, 2009 4:26pm
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Dec 30, 2009 4:29 PM
charliehustle14 wrote: I'd take him over Quinn or Anderson.

I'd love to have him in Oakland. A Gradkowski, Losman, Smith QB battle would be interesting. I don't include Russell because with wishful thinking, he won't be there next season.
Is Frye playing against my Ravens on Sunday? I wasn't sure how long Gradkowski was out.
Dec 30, 2009 4:29pm
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Dec 30, 2009 4:32 PM
Dont forget how pathetic the Browns have been, as a team, the games Quinn has had the chance to play. If Quinn were QB for a decent team like Baltimore, I certainly think he would have looked better.
Dec 30, 2009 4:32pm