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Dec 25, 2009 10:57 AM
PBF wants more testing then anyone has done before. Why is he doing that if he really wants to fight Pac? He obviously doesn't. And Pac agreed to some blood testing, just not the ridiculous amount of testing PBF wants. If Pac is blood doping (which is what they think he is doing) then wouldn't they pick it up on the after fight blood test he agreed to?
Dec 25, 2009 10:57am
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Dec 25, 2009 12:30 PM
2quik4u wrote: For all of you saying Floyd is afraid of fighting Pac are fucking stupid there is a reason Floyds nickname is Money May because he is all about the money. Do you really think he would pass up a pay day like this because he is afraid of losing?
Yes it is about marketing and if the fights the PAC man he will lose and bye bye to lots of money in the future. Floyd undefeated is worth LOTS LOTS more than a tarnished Floyd with a loss to Pacquiao.

Mayweather is a chicken shit. That is why he is doing something no fighter EVER has demanded and he has not ever done this himself so his standards are fake bullshit it is clear to anyone that has a semblence of an IQ.
Dec 25, 2009 12:30pm
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Dec 25, 2009 1:07 PM
You do realize that Mayweather himself would be subject to this testing too right? You do realize that PBF agreed to Pac's condition of a $10 million per pound penalty for going over the weight at the weigh in....the largest sum in boxing HISTORY and BY FAR more ridiculous than Mayweather's demand of more intricate testing. Again, if Pac has nothing to hide he'll take the damn random test. But my suspicion is that Pac knows he can't beat Mayweather without his juice...
Dec 25, 2009 1:07pm
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Dec 25, 2009 1:40 PM
krazie45 wrote: You do realize that Mayweather himself would be subject to this testing too right? You do realize that PBF agreed to Pac's condition of a $10 million per pound penalty for going over the weight at the weigh in....the largest sum in boxing HISTORY and BY FAR more ridiculous than Mayweather's demand of more intricate testing. Again, if Pac has nothing to hide he'll take the damn random test. But my suspicion is that Pac knows he can't beat Mayweather without his juice...
There is no juice that is a baseless allegation. Pacquiao has NEVER failed a drug test.

Mayweather is not even an active fighter no fights in 2008 I can understand his cowardice and wanting to delay to the procedure.

There is no proof of drugging by Pacquiao so he is innocent until he is proven guilty not the opposite.

Mayweather is a pussy though that is clear making unreasonable demands that he has never asked any other fight to make.

I wonder why that is? Why has Mayweather IF he is Sooooooo concerned about fairness not asked any other fight to these demands?

He is a pussy that is clear.
Dec 25, 2009 1:40pm
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Dec 25, 2009 1:57 PM
BCSbunk wrote:
krazie45 wrote: You do realize that Mayweather himself would be subject to this testing too right? You do realize that PBF agreed to Pac's condition of a $10 million per pound penalty for going over the weight at the weigh in....the largest sum in boxing HISTORY and BY FAR more ridiculous than Mayweather's demand of more intricate testing. Again, if Pac has nothing to hide he'll take the damn random test. But my suspicion is that Pac knows he can't beat Mayweather without his juice...
There is no juice that is a baseless allegation. Pacquiao has NEVER failed a drug test.

Mayweather is not even an active fighter no fights in 2008 I can understand his cowardice and wanting to delay to the procedure.

There is no proof of drugging by Pacquiao so he is innocent until he is proven guilty not the opposite.

Mayweather is a pussy though that is clear making unreasonable demands that he has never asked any other fight to make.

I wonder why that is? Why has Mayweather IF he is Sooooooo concerned about fairness not asked any other fight to these demands?

He is a pussy that is clear.
huh?? he fought in 2009
Dec 25, 2009 1:57pm
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Dec 25, 2009 2:16 PM
2quik4u wrote:
BCSbunk wrote:
krazie45 wrote: You do realize that Mayweather himself would be subject to this testing too right? You do realize that PBF agreed to Pac's condition of a $10 million per pound penalty for going over the weight at the weigh in....the largest sum in boxing HISTORY and BY FAR more ridiculous than Mayweather's demand of more intricate testing. Again, if Pac has nothing to hide he'll take the damn random test. But my suspicion is that Pac knows he can't beat Mayweather without his juice...
There is no juice that is a baseless allegation. Pacquiao has NEVER failed a drug test.

Mayweather is not even an active fighter no fights in 2008 I can understand his cowardice and wanting to delay to the procedure.

There is no proof of drugging by Pacquiao so he is innocent until he is proven guilty not the opposite.

Mayweather is a pussy though that is clear making unreasonable demands that he has never asked any other fight to make.

I wonder why that is? Why has Mayweather IF he is Sooooooo concerned about fairness not asked any other fight to these demands?

He is a pussy that is clear.
huh?? he fought in 2009
WTF? Yes he fought in 09 that does not make him an active fighter as in he fights lots of fights every year. He did NOT fight in 08 he has had one fight in the last 2 years that is not a very active fighter.
Dec 25, 2009 2:16pm
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Dec 25, 2009 11:08 PM
If Mayweather is the "pussy" why is Pac backing out of the fight. To me the guy that backs out of the fight is the pussy....Mayweather isn't the one making this fight not happen. Not to mention Pac needs this fight for his legacy more than Floyd does.\

Not to mention you still haven't addressed my point about Pac's demand for the unprecedented $10 million per pound penalty at the weigh-in. This is a more ridiculous claim than random drug testing. It's not like Mayweather is gaining some advantage by this since they would both get tested at the same time.....not to mention Pac's camp seems to already have someone else lined up for March 13th, hmmm.......sounds like they've been wanting out of this fight for a while and were just waiting for the right excuse.
Dec 25, 2009 11:08pm
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Dec 26, 2009 12:08 AM
I'm not a boxing guy, but on the oustide looking in how can anyone defend Pacquiao? Mayweather proposes testing for each of them, Paq gets mad and wants to sue? And it's Mayweather who wants out??? If Mayweather really wanted out, why would he propose this? If Paq said alright, the testing is fine with me, I have nothing to hide and Mayweather would then back out then it makes Mayweather look absolutely horrible. Mayweather has nothing to hide and Pacquiao is looking more and more like an idiot with his refusal to do the drug testing. If he's truly clean then what's the big deal? It's fair for both. He's not going to get anyone on his side of this or to qualm the suspicions by refusing to test and suing. I honestly have no idea how anyone can defend this guy right now.
Dec 26, 2009 12:08am
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Dec 26, 2009 1:29 AM
The only people defending Pacman are PBF haters and racists.
Dec 26, 2009 1:29am
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Dec 26, 2009 8:53 AM
Haha racists? Last time I checked PAC isn't white. The thing is Mayweather, whether he wants the fight or not, is being a douche asking for the drug testing. Plain and simple. I agree Pac is being shady for not accepting it, although getting blood tested the day before or of the fight is an outrageous demand. The ones who are blaming only Pac for this aren't looking at it from both sides.
Dec 26, 2009 8:53am
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Dec 26, 2009 11:06 AM
How is getting blood tested the day before a fight outrageous? Is that little tiny bit of blood really going to effect you at all? I mean common. Bottom line is that if PAC wants this fight and wants to prove to everyone that Mayweather is scared and cant fight with him(which i dont agree with at all) all he has to do is agree to get a tiny blood test the day before a fight. Big deal
Dec 26, 2009 11:06am
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Dec 26, 2009 11:20 AM
Because no other fighter has ever had to. If Mayweather really wants to fight why is he demanding this? The questions go both ways. I don't have a dog in this fight, other then I think Mayweather is a douche after watching a few 24/7's. I think the fight would be awesome and want it to happen because they are both so quick.
Dec 26, 2009 11:20am
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Dec 26, 2009 12:01 PM
De La Hoya is now questioning Pacquiao
Dec 26, 2009 12:01pm
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Dec 26, 2009 12:40 PM
Maybe they will sell the civil trial on PPV to watch a fight in the court room. Boxing is so pathetic!
Dec 26, 2009 12:40pm
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Dec 26, 2009 1:16 PM
iclfan2 wrote: Because no other fighter has ever had to. If Mayweather really wants to fight why is he demanding this? The questions go both ways. I don't have a dog in this fight, other then I think Mayweather is a douche after watching a few 24/7's. I think the fight would be awesome and want it to happen because they are both so quick.
Mayweather would be getting tested too though correct? It's not like he's asking only Pacquiao have these blood tests, it would be both of them, so the "no other fighter has ever had to" argument doesn't work to me because Mayweather will get the same treatment too. All Pacquiao has to do is agree to this and then come through it clean and there would be minimal questions about him doing anything illegal, but by not doing it he's just losing credibility and it's not harming Mayweather at all.

All I'm saying is, if people are accusing me of something that I don't do then what will accomplish more, going through thorough testing to prove my innocence or saying you guys just want to bring me down and I won't do your stupid test? Point B would just make myself look bad, and that's what Pacquiao is doing here.
Dec 26, 2009 1:16pm
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Dec 26, 2009 2:56 PM
But what does "Mayweather has to do the testing too" has anything to do with no other fight have the fighters had to go through that ridiculous testing? What does Mayweather have to prove by trying to push the issue? That is my only problem with it. Pac bowing down from it is also sketchy I agree.
Dec 26, 2009 2:56pm
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Dec 26, 2009 3:28 PM
icl, that goes back to my point though about the $10 million per pound overweight penalty. That was something Pac demanded that "no other fighter has ever had to go through". You know what? Mayweather said ok because it's a mutual contract and both sides have demands so you do this thing called "compromise". Pac is refusing to do that.....not to mention the whole point about "no other fighter has ever had to do this" is ridiculous as well. Ever hear of names like Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, and Sugar Ray Leonard? These are all guys who fought in the Olympics....the same standard to which Mayweather wants the testing so it's random.
Dec 26, 2009 3:28pm
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Dec 26, 2009 6:05 PM
Victor Conte (man who ran BALCO) weighs on the situation

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.htm#

Pac is obviously hiding something
Dec 26, 2009 6:05pm
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Dec 26, 2009 6:43 PM
Now Pacman has to accept or he looks like an idiot
Dec 26, 2009 6:43pm
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Dec 26, 2009 9:00 PM
If Mayweather drops testing the day before, and puts it at say 10 days before, and then in locker room after, Pac will be the bitch for not taking the fight.
Dec 26, 2009 9:00pm
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Dec 27, 2009 12:23 PM
Oh what do you know, Mayweather willing to make MORE compromises....Pac still being a whiny roided girl. I hope this fight happens so PBF can knock the hype right out of this bum. News flash Manny, you can't hit what you can't catch
Dec 27, 2009 12:23pm
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Dec 27, 2009 4:39 PM
Arum makes a deadline for Mayweather. Must sign contract by Monday. Pac willing to take unlimited urine tests and 3 blood tests up to 30 days before the fight. Also, Says he will have a hearing in front of the Nevada gaming condition to see if more blood testing is needed. Arum's so called experts have said that urine tests can detect up to 40 different steroids, diuretics, masking agents, etc. Says if Mayweather doesn't sign he will have a different fight with someone else. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/boxing/12/27/mayweather.deadline/index.html?eref=twitter_feed Passing up that much money is ridiculous. And the only bad part I see is that urine testing probably can't detect blood doping, which people accuse Pac of doing.
Dec 27, 2009 4:39pm
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Dec 28, 2009 2:03 PM
Arum is a bitch and he has stopped potentially the greatest fight for our generation
Dec 28, 2009 2:03pm