ts1227;1560495 wrote:Lovie to TB looks to be official

Damn that's a great hire for them. Lovie would have been the guy I wanted if Garrett got canned.

Lovie made the playoffs 1 time in his last 6 years in Chicago with a team wayyyy too talented for those types of results. In my opinion he is probably the most overrated coach on the market, and there's a reason nobody hired him last year.

I am going to be stupendously cold on Sunday.

Haha and those are conservative estimates! The models are showing -11

Bears sign Jay Cutler to 7-year deal.

gorocks99;1560761 wrote:Bears sign Jay Cutler to 7-year deal.

Holy....I mean Holy Shnikes!

All pro teams: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000308570/article/2013-allpro-teams

Did Cleveland get the most?

1st team Gordon, Thomas

2nd team Haden, Mack, Ward

Goodness

Surprised Burfict wasn't 1st team

3 of the 5 receivers were AFC North

1st team Gordon

2nd team Green and Brown

[h=1]Inmate sues NFL over missed call that cost Steelers playoff berth[/h]




http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/national/inmate-sues-nfl-over-missed-call-cost-steelers-pla/nchQ9/?icmp=cmgcontent_internallink_relatedcontent_2013_partners1

^^^
Classic, only a Steeler fan would sue for something like that.

Gruden Jay to coach the skins. Well deserved for him and I think he will be a heck of a coach. Sure RG3 is happy tonight.

Jay Gruden was a horrible OC for the bengals IMO

sportchampps;1565368 wrote:Jay Gruden was a horrible OC for the bengals IMO

lol


Not looking up their ranking I bet they were only like a top 20 offense team three or so years ago. Bumped up to a top 10 team couple years ago and this past year were close to top 5.

Whatever their ranking they've improved every year for the past few.

sportchampps;1565368 wrote:Jay Gruden was a horrible OC for the bengals IMO

Some insider guy said he believes Gruden would be a much better HC than an OC because the responsibilities are different. The guy admitted Gruden's shortcomings as an OC and it wouldn't matter as HC.

Gruden announced he would be calling his own plays.

Uh oh.

Still a better hire than Patty boy.

Are all the best candidates getting scarfed up before Gas Station Boy even makes an offer? Pickings were slim to start with and to wait this long puts the Breownies further and further behind in their search for a quality HC with virtually any experience beyond journeyman position coach or maybe even a graduate assistant. Its not looking good is it COA?

Lol Mel Kiper showing how big of an idiot he is. This redraft is terrible. The best part is down at the bottom he has Donald Brown as an "Also Considered" Brown is of course from the 2009 draft not 2008.

Here is the list since it is an insider "article"

1. Miami Dolphins: Matt Ryan, QB 2008 pick: Jake Long (Ryan's previous slot: No. 3 overall)

2. St. Louis Rams: Joe Flacco, QB 2008 pick: Chris Long (Flacco's previous slot: No. 18 overall)

3. Atlanta Falcons: Ryan Clady, OT 2008 pick: Matt Ryan (Clady's previous slot: No. 12 overall)

4. Oakland Raiders: Ray Rice, RB 2008 pick: Darren McFadden (Rice's previous slot: No. 55 overall)

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Jake Long, OT 2008 pick: Glenn Dorsey (Long's previous slot: No. 1 overall)

6. New York Jets: Jerod Mayo, LB 2008 pick: Vernon Gholston (Mayo's previous slot: No. 10 overall)

7. New Orleans Saints: Chris Johnson, RB 2008 pick: Sedrick Ellis (Johnson's previous slot: No. 24 overall)

8. Jacksonville Jaguars: DeSean Jackson, WR 2008 pick: Derrick Harvey (Jackson's previous slot: No. 49 overall)

9. Cincinnati Bengals: Calais Campbell, DE 2008 pick: Keith Rivers (Campbell's previous slot: No. 50 overall)

10. New England Patriots: Chris Long, DE 2008 pick: Jerod Mayo (Long's previous slot: No. 2 overall)

11. Buffalo Bills: Matt Forte, RB 2008 pick: Leodis McKelvin (Forte's previous slot: No. 44 overall)

12. Denver Broncos: Jamaal Charles, RB 2008 pick: Ryan Clady (Charles' previous slot: No. 73 overall)

13. Carolina Panthers: Aqib Talib, CB 2008 pick: Jonathan Stewart (Talib's previous slot: No. 20 overall)

14. Chicago Bears: Jordy Nelson, WR 2008 pick: Chris Williams (Nelson's previous slot: No. 36 overall)

15. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Sitton, OT/G 2008 pick: Branden Albert (Sitton's previous slot: No. 135 overall)

16. Arizona Cardinals: Curtis Lofton, LB 2008 pick: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Lofton's previous slot: No. 37 overall)

17. Detroit Lions: Duane Brown, OT 2008 pick: Gosder Cherilus (Brown's previous slot: No. 26 overall)

18. Baltimore Ravens: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB 2008 pick: Joe Flacco (Rodgers-Cromartie's previous slot: No. 16 overall)

19. Carolina Panthers: Carl Nicks, G 2008 pick: Jeff Otah (Nicks' previous slot: No. 164 overall)

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Cliff Avril, DE 2008 pick: Aqib Talib (Avril's previous slot: No. 92 overall)

21. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Flowers, CB 2008 pick: Sam Baker (Flowers' previous slot: No. 35 overall)

22. Dallas Cowboys: Pierre Garcon, WR 2008 pick: Felix Jones (Garcon's previous slot: No. 205 overall)

23. Pittsburgh Steelers: Red Bryant, DT 2008 pick: Rashard Mendenhall (Bryant's previous slot: No. 121 overall)

24. Tennessee Titans: Brandon Carr, CB 2008 pick: Chris Johnson (Carr's previous slot: No. 140 overall)

25. Dallas Cowboys: Kendall Langford, DT 2008 pick: Mike Jenkins (Langford's previous slot: No. 66 overall)

26. Houston Texans: Gosder Cherilus, OT 2008 pick: Duane Brown (Cherilus' previous slot: No. 17 overall)

27. San Diego Chargers: Stevie Johnson, WR 2008 pick: Antoine Cason (Johnson's previous slot: No. 224 overall)

28. Seattle Seahawks: Branden Albert, OT 2008 pick: Lawrence Jackson (Albert's previous slot: No. 15 overall)

29. San Francisco 49ers: John Sullivan, C 2008 pick: Kentwan Balmer, DT (Sullivan's previous slot: No. 187 overall)

30. New York Jets: Jermichael Finley, TE 2008 pick: Dustin Keller (Finley's previous slot: No. 91 overall)

31. New York Giants: Jonathan Stewart, RB 2008 pick: Kenny Phillips (Stewart's previous slot: No. 13 overall)

Tiernan;1565582 wrote:Are all the best candidates getting scarfed up before Gas Station Boy even makes an offer? Pickings were slim to start with and to wait this long puts the Breownies further and further behind in their search for a quality HC with virtually any experience beyond journeyman position coach or maybe even a graduate assistant. Its not looking good is it COA?

Marvin "0-4" Lewis

DeyDurkie5;1565602 wrote:Marvin "0-4" Lewis

0-5 actually. Tiernan isn't a bengals fan though, so that post is pointless.

The Bengals offense improved because the talent improved not because of Gruden. Any Bengals fan who watched games will agree his play calling was suspect. The real talent on the coaching staff is Zimmer.

Tiernan;1565582 wrote:Are all the best candidates getting scarfed up before Gas Station Boy even makes an offer? Pickings were slim to start with and to wait this long puts the Breownies further and further behind in their search for a quality HC with virtually any experience beyond journeyman position coach or maybe even a graduate assistant. Its not looking good is it COA?

Well as has been discussed Cleveland is considered by many the worst job in the league to take so that doesn't help

Tiernan;1565582 wrote:Are all the best candidates getting scarfed up before Gas Station Boy even makes an offer? Pickings were slim to start with and to wait this long puts the Breownies further and further behind in their search for a quality HC with virtually any experience beyond journeyman position coach or maybe even a graduate assistant. Its not looking good is it COA?

Unless I missed something. Houston, and Washington are the only two positions filled, and if we trust the media, Cleveland wasn't interested in either of the guys that were selected.

Tampa Bay hired lovie

No big names left at all...whoever they get will be a first time HC and will need a 2-3 learning curve to even think about a possible .500 season.