IggyPride00;1559145 wrote:On the contrary, I knew exactly who he was.

He was a troll in Philly and make things miserable in that organization. He was always jealous of Andy Reid, and was bound and determined to show everyone here that he was more than just a bean counter.

I have been so down on him because I knew this is how things would play out with him.

This is what happens when you bring Joe Banner into an organization.

He creates distrust and paranoia between the players and front office, and sits around like a half ass version of Dr. Evil.

The guy is a first class bum, and knowing we have a crook for an owner I am not surprised they get along so well.

shook_17;1559152 wrote:Who changed this thread title? Its dumb as fuck. Chud being fired is a blessing. The guy went 4-12 with 5 pro bowler 6 if you count the alternate Tj Ward. And 4 pro bowlers on the offensive side. When Chud and Norv were hired they said they could mold Weeden into a winner. The FO didn't want to into the season with Weeden but Chud and Norv convinced them. Simply winning 4 games is unacceptable. I know Chud wasn't their first second third or fourth option. I truly believe he was a stop gap until this year. I never was a fan of the hire but I rooted for the guy. I root for the name on the front not the back. I really believe Haslam wants a winner in here. You don't spend 1 billion dollars to see a loser.

This job is attractive. 2 1st round picks a lot of cap room. 4 Pro bowlers on offense and a young team. I don't care what outsiders say this job is attractive. The new coach will have his choice on HIS QB in the 1st round or playmakers and rolling with Hoyer.

shook_17;1559152 wrote:Who changed this thread title? Its dumb as fuck. Chud being fired is a blessing. The guy went 4-12 with 5 pro bowler 6 if you count the alternate Tj Ward. And 4 pro bowlers on the offensive side. When Chud and Norv were hired they said they could mold Weeden into a winner. The FO didn't want to into the season with Weeden but Chud and Norv convinced them. Simply winning 4 games is unacceptable. I know Chud wasn't their first second third or fourth option. I truly believe he was a stop gap until this year. I never was a fan of the hire but I rooted for the guy. I root for the name on the front not the back. I really believe Haslam wants a winner in here. You don't spend 1 billion dollars to see a loser.

This job is attractive. 2 1st round picks a lot of cap room. 4 Pro bowlers on offense and a young team. I don't care what outsiders say this job is attractive. The new coach will have his choice on HIS QB in the 1st round or playmakers and rolling with Hoyer.

like_that;1559153 wrote:When banner was president the eagles made the playoffs 8 out of 11 seasons he was there. They went 4 years in a row with a NFC championship appearance , and also a Super Bowl appearance. Yeah the guy is a bum LOL.

Immature if the browns have that type of resume in 12 years you will find another reason to bitch.

dlazz;1558978 wrote:I feel for the guy. He was put in a position to fail, he failed, and then was dismissed before he had the chance to do anything about it.

He had 3 different QB's play, and they traded away their running back mid-season. Of course they went 4-12. They were supposed to.

IggyPride00;1559160 wrote:Andy Reid was 100% responsible for picking the players.

Joe Banner was nothing but a bean counter.

In Cleveland, Joe Banner has final say on personnel.

You do realize that we have a bean counter picking players and not Andy Reid (who was responsible for their success) don't you?

We hired a 1st year personnel man to run the team. It defies reason.

like_that;1559168 wrote:Oh yeah, the eagles just paid banner a shit ton of money to sit on his ass for 12 years. Continue on with your troll act though you old miserable fuck.

Footwedge;1559163 wrote:LOL. The guy will pocket millions for flippin his dick the next 2 years. Poor fella.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1559183 wrote:Browns players are going ballistic... This could end very, very poorly. I heard the reason for the firing was because Chud would not release Weeden. At that point, the brass thought that Chud didn't hold his players accountable and was too "chummy" with them. No wonder they all liked him.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1559183 wrote:Browns players are going ballistic... This could end very, very poorly. I heard the reason for the firing was because Chud would not release Weeden. At that point, the brass thought that Chud didn't hold his players accountable and was too "chummy" with them. No wonder they all liked him.

thavoice;1559190 wrote:Why would he need to release Weeden? Wouldnt that be the job of someone above his pay grade?

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1559183 wrote:Browns players are going ballistic... This could end very, very poorly. I heard the reason for the firing was because Chud would not release Weeden. At that point, the brass thought that Chud didn't hold his players accountable and was too "chummy" with them. No wonder they all liked him.

ts1227;1559197 wrote:There was a tweet this morning (Mary Kay?) that was along these lines, but the player(s) named that they wanted released were Little or Lauvao

IggyPride00;1559219 wrote:Peter King reporting the Browns really like Manziel.

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IggyPride00;1559194 wrote:Reps for injecting some common sense into this place.

IggyPride00;1559219 wrote:Peter King reporting the Browns really like Manziel.

This is so Jimmy. He's looking for the headlines, he wants the ESPN trucks camped out and he wants the jersey sales. Winning is secondary to this bunch. Anything involved with marketing and lining his pockets takes precedent.

bases_loaded;1559242 wrote:I don't know what Haslam or Banner have done to get all the shit they've gotten. They made a mistake in Chud, realized it and cut bait. To the tune of 10.5 million dollars out of Haslams pocket. They didn't see progress with the team as the season went on, they obviously gave up on the coach. With all the draft picks, cap space, etc coming up...they decided to find a new head coach. Big fucking deal. When the Jets found out their coach was on his way out, they played their fucking asses off and he kept his job.

Im with the FO, hope they get their coach and QB this year.