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Apr 12, 2013 12:34 PM
"I think Joe and Mike will work through the quarterback situation," Haslam said. "And I think we're all excited about Brandon's second year. He had a good first year, and I think he'll have a better second year.

"I think Norv and Chud (offensive coordinator Norv Turner and head coach Rob Chudzinski) will be a huge help to him."

http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2013/04/11/sports/nh6785616.txt?viewmode=fullstory
Apr 12, 2013 12:34pm
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Apr 12, 2013 7:33 PM
Hm, kind of interesting that they have Jordan dropping that far. Also, interesting that Milliner, Jordan, and Warmack are projected to go right in a row as I'm sure the Browns will look heavily at all three of them.
Apr 12, 2013 7:33pm
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Apr 12, 2013 8:39 PM
Kirwan & Ryan (Movin' the Chains- SiriusXM NFL Radio) do a yearly mock where they go back & forth with picks. Here's round one, including trades...

Round 1

Pick Overall
1 1 Kansas City (Pat) Luke Joeckel, LT, Texas A&M
2 2 ... Jacksonville (Pat) Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
3 3 Miami from Oakland (Tim) Eric Smith, LT, C.Michigan
4 4 Philadelphia (Tim) Lane Johnson, LT, Oklahoma
5 5 Detroit (Pat) Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
6 6 NYJ from Cleveland (Pat) Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon
7 7 Arizona (Tim) Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
8 8 Buffalo (Tim) Ezekiel Ansah, OLB, BYU
9 9 TB from Cle from NYJ (Pat) Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St.
10 10 Tennessee (Pat) Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
11 11 San Diego (Tim) Jonathan Cooper, G, UNC
12 12 Min from Oak from Mia (Tim) Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tenn
13 13 Cleveland from TB (Pat) Desmond Trufant, CB, Wash St.
14 14 Pittsburgh from Carolina (Pat) Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
15 15 SF from NO (Tim) Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida
16 16 St. Louis (Tim) Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
17 17 Cin from Car from Pitt (Pat) DJ Fluker, RT, Alabama
18 18 Dallas (Pat) Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou
19 19 New York Giants (Tim) Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St.
20 20 Chicago (Tim) Alec Ogletree, OLB, Georgia
21 21 Carolina from Cincinnati (Pat) Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
22 22 Cle from StL from Wash (Pat) Jarvis Jones, DT, Georgia
23 23 Minnesota (Tim) Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
24 24 Indianapolis (Tim) Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
25 25 Minnesota from Seattle (Pat) Quann Short, DT, Purdue
26 26 Green Bay (Pat) Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
27 27 Houston (Tim) Robert Woods, WR, USC
28 28 Denver (Tim) Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA
29 29 Philadelphia from NE (Pat) EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
30 30 Buffalo from Atlanta (Pat) Matt Barkley, QB, USC
31 31 New Orleans from SF (Tim) Damontre Moore, OLB, Texas A&M
32 32 Baltimore (Tim) Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee

Trades:

Tampa Bay trades #43 for #64 and QB Blaine Gabbert from Jacksonville

Oakland trades #12 for #42, #77 & WR Devone Bess from Miami

NYJ trades #12 and #72 for #6 from Cleveland

Tampa Bay trades #13 and #73 from #9 from Cleveland

Minnesota trades #23, #52 and #120 for #12 from Oakland

Pittsburgh trades #17, #115 and #150 for #14 from Carolina

San Francisco trades #31 and #34 for #15 and #109 from New Orleans

Cincinnati trades #84 and #21 for #17 from Carolina

Cleveland trades #68, #72, and #73 for #22 from St. Louis

Philly trades #35 and #101 for #29 from New England

Buffalo trades a 3rd and 5th in 2014 for #30 from Atlanta
Apr 12, 2013 8:39pm
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Apr 12, 2013 9:56 PM
All I looked at was the Browns picks, and they have Trufant listed as Washington State and Jarvis Jones listed as a DT.
Apr 12, 2013 9:56pm
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Apr 13, 2013 2:58 PM
Mulva;1424489 wrote:All I looked at was the Browns picks, and they have Trufant listed as Washington State and Jarvis Jones listed as a DT.
lol
Apr 13, 2013 2:58pm
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Apr 14, 2013 9:56 AM
Mulva;1424489 wrote:All I looked at was the Browns picks, and they have Trufant listed as Washington State and Jarvis Jones listed as a DT.
Haha yeah I saw both of those and just laughed... Although that isn't the first time I've seen Jones listed as a DT.
No way the Eagles would pass on Joeckel if he was there at 4.
Apr 14, 2013 9:56am
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Apr 15, 2013 3:47 PM
FBI has flying j headquarters locked down right now. Hoping this doesn't end up as an "only in Cleveland" situation.
Apr 15, 2013 3:47pm
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Apr 15, 2013 3:57 PM
Why do they have it locked down?
Apr 15, 2013 3:57pm
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Apr 15, 2013 4:10 PM
No details. Media was barred, employees escorted out. Maybe a threat, maybe a raid. Who knows.

Edit: some tweets say IRS is there too. Sounds like a raid.
Apr 15, 2013 4:10pm
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Apr 15, 2013 8:21 PM
Draft is getting closer.. What is YOUR final pick?

If Dee Milliner is there. I believe he is the pick. If not Dion Jordan, I think he is going to be great.
Apr 15, 2013 8:21pm
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Apr 15, 2013 8:31 PM
shook_17;1426229 wrote:Draft is getting closer.. What is YOUR final pick?

If Dee Milliner is there. I believe he is the pick. If not Dion Jordan, I think he is going to be great.
Still think we trade down, and still get Dee.
Apr 15, 2013 8:31pm
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Apr 15, 2013 8:38 PM
@MaryKayCabot: #Browns just announced they have signed kicker Shayne Graham as an unrestricted free agent.
Apr 15, 2013 8:38pm
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Apr 15, 2013 9:09 PM
like_that;1426236 wrote:Still think we trade down, and still get Dee.
where/how? I've read he's not getting past the titans at ten.
Apr 15, 2013 9:09pm
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Apr 15, 2013 9:26 PM
It the top 2 OTs are off the board by #6, that leaves Lane Johnson as the only Elite LT ready to start day one on the board. Cards, Chargers and lolphins all need a LT. Thus we could trade with any of those to trade back. If we trade with the Cards (They would trade wuth us so that the lolphins/SD don't trade in front of them and steal their man) we could get Milliner if he were still on the board.
Apr 15, 2013 9:26pm
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Apr 15, 2013 10:09 PM
scoreboard;1426248 wrote:@MaryKayCabot: #Browns just announced they have signed kicker Shayne Graham as an unrestricted free agent.
Not sure how I feel about that. Didnt Graham miss like 3 field goals in a playoff game a few years ago, and single-handily blew it?
Apr 15, 2013 10:09pm
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Apr 16, 2013 7:45 AM
Mulva;1425993 wrote:FBI has flying j headquarters locked down right now. Hoping this doesn't end up as an "only in Cleveland" situation.
Yeah, this can't be good. Starting to make sense why Haslam buys that huge mansion in Bratenahl then suddenly has to rush back to Flying J headquarters because he "misses" running the company? Have a feeling old Jimmy knew some chit was about to hit the fan.
Apr 16, 2013 7:45am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:06 AM
Pick6;1426386 wrote:Not sure how I feel about that. Didnt Graham miss like 3 field goals in a playoff game a few years ago, and single-handily blew it?
Interesting perspective from a cowboys fan. As a Browns fan I think the signing is solid. Would've been nice to see kickalicious become a pwn kicker for the Browns though. Any other thoughts from Browns fans?
Apr 16, 2013 11:06am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:07 AM
like_that;1426666 wrote:Interesting perspective from a cowboys fan. As a Browns fan I think the signing is solid. Would've been nice to see kickalicious become a pwn kicker for the Browns though. Any other thoughts from Browns fans?
Well Pick6, as a cowboys fan, knows the importance of playing under pressure and being able to get the kick down/made. I have confidence that the Browns made a solid signing with Graham.
Apr 16, 2013 11:07am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:27 AM
Heard talk about the raid at Flying J's has something to do with illegaling purchasing diesel and gasoline and not paying taxes on any of it. IRS is involved.
Apr 16, 2013 11:27am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:29 AM
Graham is ok. Nothing great but it could be worse. We were spoiled with Awesome Dawson being pretty much money from 50+. Same can't be said about Graham.
Apr 16, 2013 11:29am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:29 AM
Mr Miyagi;1426688 wrote:Heard talk about the raid at Flying J's has something to do with illegaling purchasing diesel and gasoline and not paying taxes on any of it. IRS is involved.
Heard the same. Pat Shurmur called me in the middle of the night all concerned about it. ;)
Apr 16, 2013 11:29am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:30 AM
BR1986FB;1426689 wrote:Graham is ok. Nothing great but it could be worse. We were spoiled with Awesome Dawson being pretty much money from 50+. Same can't be said about Graham.
That's what I thought as well BR, but then I saw this on OBR:

"Here's a couple of interesting stats on Graham to size him up to the beloved Dawson...

Graham made nine field goals of 50 yards or longer last season for the Houston Texans. Dawson's best year was eight in 2011.

Graham's career kick % is actually slightly higher than Dawson's at 85.4 as opposed to 84 -- although, it should be noted Graham has attempted 76 less field goals (in two less professional seasons).

I find this very interesting, because they're actually similar kickers. Graham has kicked in the state spending seven seasons with the Bengals and made a short stop at New England to show he can kick in adverse weather. "
Apr 16, 2013 11:30am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:33 AM
Hmmm...I thought he was much worse from 50+ last year. Just looked at them and saw he did make nine 50+ yarders. What I found interesting was his long was 51 yards.
Apr 16, 2013 11:33am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:39 AM
BR1986FB;1426696 wrote:Hmmm...I thought he was much worse from 50+ last year. Just looked at them and saw he did make nine 50+ yarders. What I found interesting was his long was 51 yards.
Must be the result of an offense that could get a first down.
Apr 16, 2013 11:39am