wes_mantooth;1409674 wrote:Yeah, sucks that Phil is gone, but that money can be used better somewhere else. It would be awesome if we could actually score touchdowns.

CLEconomically Speaking;1409803 wrote:Depending on who is available at 6: Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner (maybe Ansah).. I see 5 teams that could have incentive to trade up=> Dolphins, Bucs, Panthers all need CB and Saints and Steelers need OLB. If a trade is available, would you rather see the Browns trade down or stay put and select one of these guys?

sleeper;1409809 wrote:I will opt to trade down anytime. Unless the Browns ever get to the point where we are one or two pieces away from being a Superbowl contender; I always opt for a trade down. I'd want something similar to the trade with the Falcons that netted them Julio Jones. Their 1st, 2nd and 4th this year, and their first and 4th next year.

CLEconomically Speaking;1409803 wrote:Depending on who is available at 6: Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner (maybe Ansah).. I see 5 teams that could have incentive to trade up=> Dolphins, Bucs, Panthers all need CB and Saints and Steelers need OLB. If a trade is available, would you rather see the Browns trade down or stay put and select one of these guys?

Commander of Awesome;1409811 wrote:I wouldn't trade with the Steelers if it were the last trade on earth. They can GFT.

Commander of Awesome;1409811 wrote:I wouldn't trade with the Steelers if it were the last trade on earth. They can GFT.

Commander of Awesome;1409812 wrote:Lot of good that trade did us.... I'm sick of trading down and passing up elite talent.

sleeper;1409814 wrote:BS. You'd do it if it was a trade rape.

Commander of Awesome;1409812 wrote:Lot of good that trade did us.... I'm sick of trading down and passing up elite talent.

sleeper;1409818 wrote:Ended up being Julio Jones for Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Weeden, and James Michael Johnson. Does anyone really think that trade didn't benefit us greatly?

sleeper;1409814 wrote:BS. You'd do it if it was a trade rape.

Commander of Awesome;1409823 wrote:This is the final tally for those picks: defensive tackle Phil Taylor (Atlanta's 2011 first-round pick), wide receiver Greg Little (2011 second-round pick), fullback Owen Marecic (2011 fourth-round pick) and quarterback Brandon Weeden (2012 first-round pick). Cleveland also used a 2012 fourth-round pick in that deal as part of the package to trade up one spot for running back Trent Richardson.

Wasn't JMJ, Marecic was a fucking waste, Weeden was a waste so its basically Jones for Taylor and Little.

sleeper;1409827 wrote:It was Julio Jones for Taylor Little and a share of Richardson. What a terrible trade. Julio Jones would have led us to 9 Superbowls! :laugh:

Commander of Awesome;1409829 wrote:I suppose its more of a fail of Heckert and Holmgren. Didn't waste the pick on Weeden or Marecic it wouldn't look so bad.

sleeper;1409832 wrote:Well yeah. I still think Weeden was a joke of a pick.

BR1986FB;1409847 wrote:Apparently the running back rule (no leading with the helmet) and the elimination of the tuck rule were passed at the owners meetings. Trent Richardson be hurtin'....