Mulva wrote: ^ You could say that about any QB in the NFL. It's a total cop out.

Kansas City has horrible receivers too, and a bad offensive line. They dropped 8 or 9 passes today, and Cassel still put up 330 yards and a 99.1 QB rating.

how in the hell can you compare stats? they have a legit number one and two in bowe and chambers so your wrong again, and secondly cassel threw 34 times! quinn 17 times. a quarterback CAN NOT get in a grove when the throw 4 times a quarter its not possible. quinn goes to the line with two plays and then he decides he did a good job changing plays today.

EliteRain20 wrote: how in the hell can you compare stats? they have a legit number one and two in bowe and chambers so your wrong again, and secondly cassel threw 34 times! quinn 17 times. a quarterback CAN NOT get in a grove when the throw 4 times a quarter its not possible. quinn goes to the line with two plays and then he decides he did a good job changing plays today.

Fine, we won't compare yards.

Yards per attempt:

Cassel 8.3
Quinn 3.9

Dwayne Bowe is a borderline #1 receiver. He's number one by default on the Chiefs (because their receivers are terrible), but I don't think anyone would consider him to be elite.

And Chris Chambers definitely isn't a legit number 2 receiver at this point in his career. He's a good deep threat, but that's about it at this point. He had 462 receiving yards last year, and has 616 this year. He used to be very good, but he's on the wrong side of 30 now. There's a reason he is a #2 on the Chiefs when he couldn't even get on the field in San Diego, and it's the reason I already pointed out. The Chiefs receivers are horrible.

They lead the league in passes dropped for a reason.

ONLY a Browns fan could try to defend a 27.7 QB rating. 27.7!

Mulva wrote:

EliteRain20 wrote: how in the hell can you compare stats? they have a legit number one and two in bowe and chambers so your wrong again, and secondly cassel threw 34 times! quinn 17 times. a quarterback CAN NOT get in a grove when the throw 4 times a quarter its not possible. quinn goes to the line with two plays and then he decides he did a good job changing plays today.

Fine, we won't compare yards.

Yards per attempt:

Cassel 8.3
Quinn 3.9

Dwayne Bowe is a borderline #1 receiver. He's number one by default on the Chiefs (because their receivers are terrible), but I don't think anyone would consider him to be elite.

And Chris Chambers definitely isn't a legit number 2 receiver at this point in his career. He's a good deep threat, but that's about it at this point. He had 462 receiving yards last year, and has 616 this year. He used to be very good, but he's on the wrong side of 30 now. There's a reason he is a #2 on the Chiefs when he couldn't even get on the field in San Diego, and it's the reason I already pointed out. The Chiefs receivers are horrible.

They lead the league in passes dropped for a reason.

ONLY a Browns fan could try to defend a 27.7 QB rating. 27.7!

chambers 5 receptions 124 yards. he was a damn good number two yesterday. i would take him this year on the browns. borderline or not bowe is a number one sorry man.

where did i say that a 27.7 rating was good? all im saying is as a quarterback its hard to keep warm and feel good about yourself when you throw 4 times a quarter. this isn't high school football. you need to throw atleast 9 times a quarter to feel good, you get what im saying? quinn is a game manger at this point in his career. and i would say he is doing a fine job. the only thing that matters is W and L.

also im not giving up on quinn. he is 3-9 as a starter i believe? some games he looks like he is on track some games not. and he hasn't turn the ball over that much since taking over again. what two INTs maybe a fumble, not bad in my book. because when your this bad and don't have any talent like the browns you have to limit turnovers and maximize oppertunities.

I remember back in the old place when we got into a discussion about Cribbs being the best KO returner in the league..........and I got dogged out by certain free"huddlers" about how wrong I was.

I did not realize that Cribbs was in position to set the all-time record. I would have thought that 8 KO returns would not be close to the all time record.

I am pleasantly surprised about this.

And those others can EAT IT now!