sportchampps;1176316 wrote:3 of my best friends all have pits. 2/3 are the smartest most gentle dogs you will meet. The third is stupid and causes so e trouble but would never bite. They were all trained by a friend who went on to become a professional dog trainer. It's not the breed that causes a dog to be bad its bad owners. Unfortunately for pits they are a popular breed for stupid owners to buy.

isadore;1176158 wrote:talk about a self fulfilling prophecy, a dog kills a kid, it must be the owner's. Why because it can not be the dog's fault.
why is that true, well one once licked my hand, so they must be nice.
Well it is the owner's fault in one way, they brought a killer into their home.

WebFire;1176163 wrote:So why would someone want to choose this breed to bring into their home with children, when it needs special attention and extra monitoring to not hurt anyone?

WebFire;1176179 wrote:Your point is moot. Guns can't kill without a human using it. Dogs can.

Comparing inanimate objects to living objects is a terrible argument. You're smarter than that.

sportchampps;1176316 wrote:3 of my best friends all have pits. 2/3 are the smartest most gentle dogs you will meet. The third is stupid and causes so e trouble but would never bite. They were all trained by a friend who went on to become a professional dog trainer. It's not the breed that causes a dog to be bad its bad owners. Unfortunately for pits they are a popular breed for stupid owners to buy.

bigkahuna;1176338 wrote:You mock the ones on here who say what's in bold. In reality, you're doing the same thing. "Oh, x% of dog killers are pitts, so all pitts are killers



This is true with any dog/cat; especially around young children babies. I've said it about 3 times in this thread. My wife was maimed by a cat when she was 3 months old, and her parents will even say it's their fault for leaving her in her seat thing unattended.



Ok, so take a bucket of water, or a pool. You don't need to use those, they're just sitting there doing nothing.

bigkahuna;1176338 wrote:You mock the ones on here who say what's in bold. In reality, you're doing the same thing. "Oh, x% of dog killers are pitts, so all pitts are killers



This is true with any dog/cat; especially around young children babies. I've said it about 3 times in this thread. My wife was maimed by a cat when she was 3 months old, and her parents will even say it's their fault for leaving her in her seat thing unattended.



Ok, so take a bucket of water, or a pool. You don't need to use those, they're just sitting there doing nothing.

bigkahuna;1176337 wrote:I don't see what's so hard about this to understand. Reps.

THE4RINGZ;1176268 wrote:True, but if these smaller dogs I own were bigger and had the same temperments they do, they would.be killers.

LJ;1176254 wrote:Your extensive research on the anti bully dogbites website?

Mixed breed and little dogs top the lists for most overall bites.

bigkahuna;1176338 wrote: This is true with any dog/cat; especially around young children babies. I've said it about 3 times in this thread. My wife was maimed by a cat when she was 3 months old, and her parents will even say it's their fault for leaving her in her seat thing unattend.

vball10set;1176365 wrote:This is NOT TRUE, and for the record, a three month old infant should never be left unattended in a "seat thing", regardless of whether a pet is present or not--ever! :thumbdown:

WebFire;1176351 wrote:When is the last time a pool attacked someone? The human had to derp for the pool to cause harm. Not the case with dogs. Are you seriously arguing this?

bigkahuna;1176371 wrote:Take out dog attack and put in anything you want. The point is that the majority of these incidents wouldn't occur if the parents had been watching the kid.

bigkahuna;1176371 wrote: I know I'm not allowed to make comparisons with inanimate objects, but which gun is more lethal a bb gun or a glock?

WebFire;1176377 wrote:Doesn't matter. Neither by themselves can do anything. They REQUIRE a human to use them. Dogs do not need a human to attack. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

bigkahuna;1176382 wrote:Can you not see what I'm saying with what you quoted?

A pit bull bite is going to be more harmful/deadly than a poodle's because they're stronger.

A bullet from a glock is going to be more harmful/deadly than a bb gun because it's a stronger gun.

I didn't find the stat(LJ did I think) about pitt bulls not even being the most likely to bite, but they are to kill because that one bite is stronger. I'd rather be bitten by my bichon than a pitt bull because it's going to hurt a hell of a lot less because of the strength of the two dogs.

I'm saying the strength of the bite can be contributed to why there are so many more deaths from a pitt.

WebFire;1176396 wrote:So what are you trying to disprove? You are agreeing that pits are more deadly. Is that not what this discussion is about?

vball10set;1176418 wrote:@ bigkahuna

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php

bigkahuna;1176518 wrote:Notice in that report that pitt bulls also have the highest % of the population? lol.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I guess LJ was wrong.

Pit bulls are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children, a characteristic not shared by any other breed.

bigkahuna;1176518 wrote:Notice in that report that pitt bulls also have the highest % of the population? lol.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I guess LJ was wrong.

vball10set;1176526 wrote:First of all it's 'pit' bulls, and secondly, why the lol? is this funny too??

There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill."
[INDENT]"There are several reasons why it is not possible to calculate a bite rate for a breed or to compare rates between breeds. First, the breed of the biting dog may not be accurately recorded, and mixed-breed dogs are commonly described as if they were purebreds. Second, the actual number of bites that occur in a community is not known, especially if they did not result in serious injury. Third, the number of dogs of a particular breed or combination of breeds in a community is not known, because it is rare for all dogs in a community to be licensed, and existing licensing data is then incomplete. [Source: AVMA Task Force on Canine Aggression]