fish82;1158698 wrote:The new graduate unemployment rate for Journalism majors is lower than 11 of 15 commonly measured categories, according to a recent study by Georgetown. Just sayin.

http://www9.georgetown.edu/grad/gppi/hpi/cew/pdfs/Unemployment.Final.pdf

sleeper;1158700 wrote:

You can admit your wrong any day now.

sleeper;1158703 wrote:Look at the salaries. Journalism is the one of the smallest. A lot of those are probably sales positions because that's all a journalism degree is good for.

fish82;1158723 wrote:You're absolutely right. It's way better to be sitting on your ass eating Cheetos on Mom's couch fapping to your diploma than making 32K and working in your chosen field. :rolleyes:

sleeper;1158725 wrote:If Sales is in the journalism field, then I agree.

sleeper;1158726 wrote:Plus I don't trust the study either(2009 numbers, its 2012 and doesn't include underemployed either, just employed vs. unemployed), but I do appreciate the effort in finding said study.

sleeper;1158700 wrote:It's because they don't exist. Schools aren't posting the information, and those that do are probably lying about the data.

We do have access to their recent freshman class academic profiles. If you'd like to make the stretch that those with lower grads are more likely to receive a job after graduation than those with higher grades, I'd love to see your evidence. Otherwise, common sense will dictate that OSU is churning out more employed students at a far greater rate than OU.

Here is my evidence, I'd love to see yours:
http://undergrad.osu.edu/admissions/quick-facts.html



http://www.ohio.edu/admissions/fresh.cfm




You can admit your wrong any day now.

#sleeperwins

wkfan;1158735 wrote:As soon as you can prove me wrong, I will.

As of now, you have failed.

You can say that what you stated is your opinion...go ahead, it really won't hurt too much.

sleeper;1158738 wrote:I just did. Unless you are implying that those with worse grades are going to be more successful than those with better grades. I find that hard to believe and common sense dictates my position, not yours.

sleeper;1158732 wrote:To show what? 31k is barely above minimum wage. Must be a great college investment. :rolleyes:

FatHobbit;1158739 wrote:high school grades...

wkfan;1158741 wrote:Let's see...current federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Multiply that by 2,080 hours (40 hours per week * 52 weeks in a year ) yields a yearly salary of $15,080. $31K is almost twice that....hardly 'barely above minimum wage'.

You fail again!

sleeper;1158738 wrote:I just did. Unless you are implying that those with worse grades are going to be more successful than those with better grades. I find that hard to believe and common sense dictates my position, not yours.

wkfan;1158745 wrote:Whatever helps you 'sleep' at night.

(get it...it's a pun on your user name. your username is 'sleeper'.....I said 'sleep' at night.....oh, forget it. it's too much for you to wrap your head around.)

sleeper;1158743 wrote:ACT scores and SAT scores?

Ever heard of garbage in, garbage out?

FatHobbit;1158757 wrote:Can't argue with that science. You can apply a cliche. It must be true.

sleeper;1158758 wrote:So a school who's median student has an ACT score between 21-26 is better than a school who's median student has a score between 26-30.

Gotcha. :rolleyes:

sleeper;1158734 wrote:If you are happy with 31k a year, all the best. What a joke.

Graduate with 50k+ in debt to make 31k per year selling stuff over the phone.

FatHobbit;1158760 wrote:You have no proof. You have assumptions.

fish82;1158761 wrote:Yeah...everyone graduates with 50K in debt. :rolleyes:

FYI...the average base/commission pay for entry level inside sales reps is about 48K...assuming of course that you can provide one shred of evidence to back your uninformed opinion that that's where journalism majors end up.

Quick broski.....declare victory!!!

#sleeperwins!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

sleeper;1158762 wrote:I don't need to prove common sense. Are you making the statement that those with lower ACT scores and lower SAT scores, in the aggregate, do better than those with higher ACT and SAT scores?

sleeper;1158642 wrote:I'd be willing to bet, adjusted for school size of course, that far more OU grads are unemployed or underemployed than OSU grads, it wouldn't even be close. OU is one of the worst schools in the country; almost on the the SEC schools level outside of Vandy.

Originally Posted by OSU

• Ranked in top 10% of high school class: 55%
• Ranked in top 25% of high school class: 89%
• SAT Critical Reading and Math score range (middle 50%): 1170–1320
• ACT score range (middle 50%): 26–30

Originally Posted by OU[LEFT]To give you an idea of the level of our incoming students, here is themiddle 50 percent range for students admitted to the Fall 2010 freshman class:[/LEFT]

• Top 16-46% of their graduating high school class.
• The average composite ACT score range was 21-26.
• The average combined SAT score range was 980-1220 (math and critical reading).
• The average high school grade point average was 3.4 (on a 4.0 scale).