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May 27, 2012 11:13 PM
ts1227;1183015 wrote:I'm going to gouge my eyes out if I have to watch SA/MIA
why? sa will put on a clinic
May 27, 2012 11:13pm
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May 27, 2012 11:13 PM
SA is so well coached, unreal.
May 27, 2012 11:13pm
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May 27, 2012 11:14 PM
dazedconfused;1183019 wrote:why? sa will put on a clinic
I disagree.
May 27, 2012 11:14pm
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May 27, 2012 11:15 PM
robj55;1183020 wrote:SA is so well coached, unreal.
Yep. Pops may be the best coach in the NBA.
May 27, 2012 11:15pm
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May 27, 2012 11:16 PM
dazedconfused;1183019 wrote:why? sa will put on a clinic
That clinic is like watching paint dry
May 27, 2012 11:16pm
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May 27, 2012 11:22 PM
ts1227;1183023 wrote:That clinic is like watching paint dry
spurs teams of the past, yes, i'll give you that. this spurs team, though, just plays beautiful basketball to me
May 27, 2012 11:22pm
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May 27, 2012 11:23 PM
ts1227;1183023 wrote:That clinic is like watching paint dry
Wow I couldn't disagree more. SA is the most fun team to watch this post season IMO. The old moniker of SA playing boring basketball is outdated. They play some of the best basketball I've ever seen.
May 27, 2012 11:23pm
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May 27, 2012 11:24 PM
dazedconfused;1183027 wrote:spurs teams of the past, yes, i'll give you that. this spurs team, though, just plays beautiful basketball to me
Agreed. The make up of this Spurs team is much more exciting. Weapons everywhere... Shooters, slashers, inside scorers... They have it all.
May 27, 2012 11:24pm
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May 27, 2012 11:32 PM
hoops23;1183022 wrote:Yep. Pops may be the best coach in the NBA.
Always has been imo, even when Phil was coaching. Phil was a great motivator and ran a great system with the triangle but Pop is just so damn good and has adapted from a defensive team to an offensive juggernaut. They run their sets so well and there are no egos. Maybe the best franchise in sports.
May 27, 2012 11:32pm
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May 27, 2012 11:44 PM
hoops23;1183022 wrote:Yep. Pops may be the best coach in the NBA.
He definitely is.
May 27, 2012 11:44pm
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May 28, 2012 12:47 AM
robj55;1183042 wrote:Always has been imo, even when Phil was coaching. Phil was a great motivator and ran a great system with the triangle but Pop is just so damn good and has adapted from a defensive team to an offensive juggernaut. They run their sets so well and there are no egos. Maybe the best franchise in sports.
I was going to type pretty much the same thing but didn't feel like debating anybody about it lol. I always thought Pops was > Phil. Pops hasn't had a lack of talent, but he never had the likeness of MJ, Kobe, or Shaq either..

What he did have was a team that bought fully into his system and ran it to perfection. He's become much more lax over the last few seasons and I think it's in direct correlation with him trusting his veterans to do the job they've been taught to do for so many years. He even jokes now.
May 28, 2012 12:47am
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May 28, 2012 7:00 AM
robj55;1183002 wrote:Spurs execute better and play better D, there is your difference.
Another difference to me that I heard this morning on Mike and Mike was that when the score was 85-85, the Thunder had 85 points on 84 passes...the Spurs 220 passes for 85 points. Talk about sharing the ball. wow.
May 28, 2012 7:00am
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May 28, 2012 9:37 AM
robj55;1183042 wrote:Always has been imo, even when Phil was coaching. Phil was a great motivator and ran a great system with the triangle but Pop is just so damn good and has adapted from a defensive team to an offensive juggernaut. They run their sets so well and there are no egos. Maybe the best franchise in sports.
I guess if you can ignore the fact that Popovich and the Spurs were bounced 2 out of the last 3 times in the 1st round of the Playoffs and once as a #1 seed losing to an 8th seed in 6 games. He is a very good coach but he wasn't better than Phil when he was coaching.
May 28, 2012 9:37am
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May 28, 2012 9:50 AM
Skyhook79;1183122 wrote:I guess if you can ignore the fact that Popovich and the Spurs were bounced 2 out of the last 3 times in the 1st round of the Playoffs and once as a #1 seed losing to an 8th seed in 6 games. He is a very good coach but he wasn't better than Phil when he was coaching.
How awesome were the Lakers from when shaq left to when they stole Gasol? I cant remember.
May 28, 2012 9:50am
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May 28, 2012 12:50 PM
sportswizuhrd;1183099 wrote:Another difference to me that I heard this morning on Mike and Mike was that when the score was 85-85, the Thunder had 85 points on 84 passes...the Spurs 220 passes for 85 points. Talk about sharing the ball. wow.
Didn't know they kept that stat, pretty sweet.
May 28, 2012 12:50pm
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May 28, 2012 12:51 PM
Skyhook79;1183122 wrote:I guess if you can ignore the fact that Popovich and the Spurs were bounced 2 out of the last 3 times in the 1st round of the Playoffs and once as a #1 seed losing to an 8th seed in 6 games. He is a very good coach but he wasn't better than Phil when he was coaching.
Ginobili, arguably their most important player, was hurt last year against Memphis. How did the Lakers fare last year in the playoffs? I seem to remember them getting their asses blown off the floor by the Mavs.
May 28, 2012 12:51pm
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May 28, 2012 1:02 PM
Spurs over OKC in 5.
May 28, 2012 1:02pm
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May 28, 2012 3:34 PM
robj55;1183192 wrote:Ginobili, arguably their most important player, was hurt last year against Memphis. How did the Lakers fare last year in the playoffs? I seem to remember them getting their asses blown off the floor by the Mavs.
Not to mention when Kobe didn't have Pau Gasol...

2006-2007 when they finished as the #7 seed and blew a 3-1 lead in the first round to Phoenix.
May 28, 2012 3:34pm
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May 28, 2012 4:22 PM
I never really considered Phil Jackson a great coach. He fell into great situations. Jordan and pippen. Kobe and shaq. Anyone could win with those teams. Pop has never had a legit superstar. You could say Duncan but he's not the caliber of Kobe or Jordan.
May 28, 2012 4:22pm
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May 28, 2012 4:31 PM
hoops23;1183248 wrote:Not to mention when Kobe didn't have Pau Gasol...

2006-2007 when they finished as the #7 seed and blew a 3-1 lead in the first round to Phoenix.
I guess you could say that Kobe wasn't good enough to get it done without help.
May 28, 2012 4:31pm
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May 28, 2012 4:46 PM
robj55;1183281 wrote:I guess you could say that Kobe wasn't good enough to get it done without help.
Yeah but every superstar is like that
May 28, 2012 4:46pm
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May 28, 2012 4:57 PM
Why do people keep saying Duncan isnt a superstar? I get he is a big man, so its tougher to get the ball each possession. But he is in the best PF of all time list with Barkley and The Mailman
May 28, 2012 4:57pm
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May 28, 2012 5:05 PM
lhslep134;1183288 wrote:Yeah but every superstar is like that
Then why do people associate winning and rings with individuals and not teams?
May 28, 2012 5:05pm
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May 28, 2012 5:28 PM
Crimson streak;1183277 wrote:I never really considered Phil Jackson a great coach. He fell into great situations. Jordan and pippen. Kobe and shaq. Anyone could win with those teams. Pop has never had a legit superstar. You could say Duncan but he's not the caliber of Kobe or Jordan.
Unless we are defining superstar by their influence beyond the game itself (jersey sales, popularity, etc.), Tim Duncan is undoubtedly a superstar. While behind Jordan, I would say he is on a similar level as Kobe as his game is so complete.
May 28, 2012 5:28pm
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May 28, 2012 6:12 PM
robj55;1183308 wrote:Then why do people associate winning and rings with individuals and not teams?
Short answer? Because they're idiots. Seriously.
May 28, 2012 6:12pm