Would a true Democracy ever work?

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Mar 23, 2012 12:43 PM
I feel like with advancing technology a true Democracy would actually be pretty cool to implement. Imagine if the American budget was decided on by all the people going to the polls(or via computer), or the decision to ban gay marriage, or whether or not Marijuana should be legal.

Now, you'd have to pass a test to vote in this Democracy because we wouldn't want the ENTIRE Democratic party voting or the redneck GOPers from the South having a say in anything. Otherwise we could end up with Obama, or even worse Rick Santorum.

Anyway, thoughts?
Mar 23, 2012 12:43pm
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Mar 23, 2012 12:46 PM
nuke the south
Mar 23, 2012 12:46pm
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Mar 23, 2012 1:26 PM
sleeper;1125187 wrote:I feel like with advancing technology a true Democracy would actually be pretty cool to implement. Imagine if the American budget was decided on by all the people going to the polls(or via computer), or the decision to ban gay marriage, or whether or not Marijuana should be legal.

Now, you'd have to pass a test to vote in this Democracy because we wouldn't want the ENTIRE Democratic party voting or the redneck GOPers from the South having a say in anything. Otherwise we could end up with Obama, or even worse Rick Santorum.

Anyway, thoughts?
To be honest with ya....too many people as it is dont understand even some of the simplist issues that are put up to vote and you want them to now someone how a direct vote on the budget? Some of those things like the budget would be a clusterfuck as a vote.

The other things...yeah. Those can be voted upon and probably would work
Mar 23, 2012 1:26pm
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Mar 23, 2012 1:46 PM
Never. The unintelligent masses would not let those who could run an efficient country do so. So we have the pathetic mess that we are in now.
Mar 23, 2012 1:46pm
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Mar 23, 2012 1:53 PM
You can't fix stupid.
Mar 23, 2012 1:53pm
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Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM
Nope. I'm pretty sure some researchers just looked into this question and came to a pretty bleak conclusion. Humanity is dumb.
Mar 23, 2012 2:00pm
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Mar 23, 2012 2:42 PM
Lets give it a try:

ALL IN FAVOR OF SLEEPER STFU SAY AYE!
Mar 23, 2012 2:42pm
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Mar 23, 2012 2:55 PM
Absolutely not.
Mar 23, 2012 2:55pm
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Mar 23, 2012 2:55 PM
tcarrier32;1125280 wrote:Nope. I'm pretty sure some researchers just looked into this question and came to a pretty bleak conclusion. Humanity is dumb.
Yep. It'd turn into all the stupid people running things while all the smart people act stupid by constantly arguing over what way to go. Which...come to think about it...isn't really any different than how things have been over the past decade or three anyway, so whatever...
Mar 23, 2012 2:55pm
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Mar 23, 2012 3:01 PM
Americans are retarded, so no.
Mar 23, 2012 3:01pm
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Mar 23, 2012 6:58 PM
Even the most intelligent people simply don't have the time to fully study all the issues and then to make intelligent decisions regarding them. That's why a representative democracy is superior.
Mar 23, 2012 6:58pm
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Mar 24, 2012 12:55 PM
Would you really want members of the OC deciding if it is illegal to have sex with an unwilling person?
Mar 24, 2012 12:55pm
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Mar 24, 2012 1:38 PM
People are too fucking lazy to vote in a representative democracy let alone a pure democracy.
Devils Advocate;1125305 wrote:Lets give it a try:

ALL IN FAVOR OF SLEEPER STFU SAY AYE!
Although I do endorse true democracy in this...AYE.
Mar 24, 2012 1:38pm
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MontyBrunswick

Mar 24, 2012 2:02 PM
If only there were a poltics forum...


reported OP for being stupid
Mar 24, 2012 2:02pm
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Mar 24, 2012 2:56 PM
dlazz;1126175 wrote:If only there were a poltics forum...


reported OP for being stupid
They used to have one... but like marriage, you are not allowed to voice your opinion unless you are agreeing with the moderator.
Mar 24, 2012 2:56pm
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Mar 24, 2012 3:31 PM
password;1126244 wrote:They used to have one... but like marriage, you are not allowed to voice your opinion unless you are agreeing with the moderator.

Lol what? I dont agree with most of the stuff currently posted In there.
Mar 24, 2012 3:31pm
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Mar 24, 2012 4:04 PM
It wouldn't work for one reason:

A portion of the electorate (i.e., all) would decide to take away the rights of a certain group via some threshold: intelligence, wealth, etc. Then, a smaller group of that subset would vote to restrict the right to vote to a smaller percentage. And smaller, and smaller. The system would eventually breakdown when either the minority rose up in revolt, or a small group controlled absolutely everything by constantly justifying their need to restrict the right to vote to a smaller and smaller group.
Mar 24, 2012 4:04pm
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Mar 24, 2012 5:04 PM
No, there should be a "war tax" to encourage awareness and involvement in foreign policy issues though.
Mar 24, 2012 5:04pm
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Mar 26, 2012 8:25 AM
I think most people missed the part where I said in this scenario you would have to pass a test to vote. The test would be akin to getting a 36 on your ACT in order to vote.

Problems solved.
Mar 26, 2012 8:25am
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Mar 26, 2012 8:52 AM
I agree with Sleeper. We'd be debt free in a year, and have Canada and Mexico as part of our empire by year 3.
Mar 26, 2012 8:52am