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Dec 1, 2011 8:57 AM
WebFire;996110 wrote:Actually I would say he is. He committed and he's sticking to it. That's what a commitment is, you know?
Yea, for some reason it doesn't seem like he was ever in OSU's plans. It's refreshing to see a guy sticking to his guns.
Dec 1, 2011 8:57am
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Dec 1, 2011 9:15 AM
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;996086 wrote:Troy Smith was a 4* QB
he was the last player signed in his class as an 'athlete'.
Dec 1, 2011 9:15am
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Dec 1, 2011 9:46 AM
wkfan;996155 wrote:he was the last player signed in his class as an 'athlete'.
Did you know AJ Hawk was a 3* recruit?
Dec 1, 2011 9:46am
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Dec 1, 2011 9:48 AM
Malcom Jenkins,Bradley Roby was a 3 star recruit, etc etc.
Dec 1, 2011 9:48am
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Dec 1, 2011 9:58 AM
OneBuckeye;996224 wrote:Malcom Jenkins,Bradley Roby was a 3 star recruit, etc etc.
More shocking recruiting revelations!

Just because Troy Smith was the last player taken in that OSU class, doesn't mean he wasn't a huge get. Kid was an elite 11 participant.
Dec 1, 2011 9:58am
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Dec 1, 2011 10:22 AM
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;996086 wrote:Troy Smith was a 4* QB
No, he was not. He was a 3-star athlete.
WebFire;996110 wrote:Actually I would say he is. He committed and he's sticking to it. That's what a commitment is, you know?
Good for him. I'd love to play for a school that is 0-2 in BCS bowls and has zero chance of ever winning anything that anyone outside of South Bend cares about. That's what ND recruits, players who don't want to compete at a real school.
Dec 1, 2011 10:22am
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Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;996086 wrote:Troy Smith was a 4* QB
WebFire;996110 wrote:Actually I would say he is. He committed and he's sticking to it. That's what a commitment is, you know?
Those were changed after he won the Heisman so Rivals and Scout didn't get called up for underestimating a Heisman winner.
Dec 1, 2011 10:27am
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Dec 1, 2011 10:33 AM
Midstate01;996003 wrote:That's fine, meyer wants kids to commit then talk to no one else. So can't blame this kid at all.

Is that part of Meyer's recruiting philosophy? Why would he be trying to talk to committed guys then?
Dec 1, 2011 10:33am
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Dec 1, 2011 10:34 AM
vball10set;996068 wrote:We'll see what happens on NSD. A lot of things can change between now and then, and if Meyer really wants a player, there's a pretty good chance he'll get him, regardless of what the player's saying now.

LOL
Dec 1, 2011 10:34am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:01 AM
karen lotz;996306 wrote:LOL
I suspect we'll see all the 5 stars at OSU then, huh? ;)
Dec 1, 2011 11:01am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:04 AM
sleeper;996283 wrote:Good for him. I'd love to play for a school that is 0-2 in BCS bowls and has zero chance of ever winning anything that anyone outside of South Bend cares about. That's what ND recruits, players who don't want to compete at a real school.
You can't even get that fact right? They're 0-3, dumbass.

Some kids like to go to schools that will not only allow them to play football, but will teach them. You're just upset you couldn't get into the Mendoza College and had to go to Fisher. ;)
Dec 1, 2011 11:04am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:07 AM
rightfield;996047 wrote:Its his loss. Winning isn't as big a deal with some kids as with others. Thankfully most talented kids like to win championships.
I guess you're right, other than than Notre Dame's ROI being far superior to Ohio State's. He's winning for life with that choice.
Dec 1, 2011 11:07am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:08 AM
Tobias Fünke;996365 wrote:You can't even get that fact right? They're 0-3, dumbass.

Some kids like to go to schools that will not only allow them to play football, but will teach them. You're just upset you couldn't get into the Mendoza College and had to go to Fisher. ;)
I didn't even apply to Notre Dame. Fisher is a better school anyway, I don't care if Notre Dame paid more money to Forbes to have them ranked #1.

0-3 is worse than 0-2, I don't see why that matters.
Dec 1, 2011 11:08am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM
sleeper;996369 wrote:I didn't even apply to Notre Dame. Fisher is a better school anyway, I don't care if Notre Dame paid more money to Forbes to have them ranked #1.

0-3 is worse than 0-2, I don't see why that matters.
Well it matters because you never seem to get your facts straight.

Notre Dame's ROI clearly indicates that it's a better college. Fisher is good, but it isn't elite. Sorta like Notre Dame and Ohio State in football, only reversed. Only winning in business sets you up for life, whereas the <1% of the guys who even make it to the NFL, 80% end up broke shortly after due to an unsustainable lifestyle. Smart guys make the better decisions for their life.

You didn't apply because you knew you couldn't get in.
Dec 1, 2011 11:12am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM
sleeper;996296 wrote:Those were changed after he won the Heisman so Rivals and Scout didn't get called up for underestimating a Heisman winner.
You are always wrong, dumbass.
Dec 1, 2011 11:12am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:13 AM
Meyer got tons of 4* & 5* recruits at Florida. An amazingly high percentage of them were flops.
Dec 1, 2011 11:13am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:14 AM
Tobias Fünke;996375 wrote:Well it matters because you never seem to get your facts straight.

Notre Dame's ROI clearly indicates that it's a better college. Fisher is good, but it isn't elite. Sorta like Notre Dame and Ohio State in football, only reversed. Only winning in business sets you up for life, whereas the <1% of the guys who even make it to the NFL, 80% end up broke shortly after due to an unsustainable lifestyle. Smart guys make the better decisions for their life.

You didn't apply because you knew you couldn't get in.
You don't go to Notre Dame. I don't care about Notre Dame's ROI and neither does anyone else.
Dec 1, 2011 11:14am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:15 AM
Speedofsand;996378 wrote:Meyer got tons of 4* & 5* recruits at Florida. An amazingly high percentage of them were flops.
Exactly. At Ohio State, your recruiting ranking does not matter, you will be transformed into a perennial All-Star via our coaching staff and our academic/ethical philosophy.
Dec 1, 2011 11:15am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:20 AM
sleeper;996379 wrote:You don't go to Notre Dame. I don't care about Notre Dame's ROI and neither does anyone else.
You may not, but clearly the prospects continue to take notice.

While I don't go to Notre Dame, I can truthfully say that they don't have my program. Being that it's a small school and all, they don't offer everything.
Dec 1, 2011 11:20am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:25 AM
sleeper;996380 wrote:Exactly. At Ohio State, your recruiting ranking does not matter, you will be transformed into a perennial All-Star via our coaching staff and our academic/ethical philosophy.
Yes and those All stars have been lighting it up on the field
Dec 1, 2011 11:25am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:31 AM
Tobias Fünke;996385 wrote:You may not, but clearly the prospects continue to take notice.

While I don't go to Notre Dame, I can truthfully say that they don't have my program. Being that it's a small school and all, they don't offer everything.
are you including in the ROI the fact that if they go to ND, they're less likely to get to the NFL than if they go to OSU? If you're a top tier athlete, I'd want to include that in any potential ROI calculation a school is throwing my way.

Also, Fisher > Mendoza
Dec 1, 2011 11:31am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:41 AM
Tobias Fünke;996385 wrote:You may not, but clearly the prospects continue to take notice.

While I don't go to Notre Dame, I can truthfully say that they don't have my program. Being that it's a small school and all, they don't offer everything.
Cool. Notre Dame is now Duke, but with more arrogance. They don't recruit players that want to win, they recruit losers that want to be successful off the field. It's not the coach, you could bring in Vince Lombardi himself and Notre Dame still would never touch the top tier of college athletics. Enjoy!
Dec 1, 2011 11:41am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:42 AM
derek bomar;996398 wrote:are you including in the ROI the fact that if they go to ND, they're less likely to get to the NFL than if they go to OSU? If you're a top tier athlete, I'd want to include that in any potential ROI calculation a school is throwing my way.

Also, Fisher > Mendoza
Fisher really is better than Mendoza. Notre Dame just throws more money at Forbes and US news, while Ohio State takes that money and invests it in better teachers and stronger infrastructure and technology.
Dec 1, 2011 11:42am
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Dec 1, 2011 11:45 AM
derek bomar;996398 wrote:Also, Fisher > Mendoza
Here we go!
Dec 1, 2011 11:45am