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Jun 21, 2011 4:46 PM
sportswizuhrd;808897 wrote:The Wizards love Kanter and its mutual. If they want him bad enough, I say we try for McGee or Blatche.

The reason they seem to like Kanter so much is because they think he would pair well with McGee in the front court, and I have read from multiple sources that the Wiz are not going to trade McGee.

Not sure I would be interested in Blatche.
Jun 21, 2011 4:46pm
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Jun 21, 2011 5:17 PM
If we traded with the Wizards and a player was packaged, i'd like to get Crawford
Jun 21, 2011 5:17pm
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Jun 21, 2011 5:36 PM
I don't like the Wiz trade..I like the idea of packaging our 2nd round picks for another 1st..2nd round picks are almost worthless; late 1st round picks (20-32) are not great, but there is a better chance of hitting on someone there.
Jun 21, 2011 5:36pm
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Jun 21, 2011 6:55 PM
BR1986FB;808581 wrote:Cavs are in talks with the Wizards. Wiz want Kanter and may give up #6 & #18 to move up to #4.

Cleveland would select Jonas, who would not be in the NBA next season, at #6.
Jun 21, 2011 6:55pm
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Jun 21, 2011 7:28 PM
I wouldnt want anything to do with Blatche. My lasting image of him is that time he kept trying to get that elusive last rebound for his triple double. He was almost taking the ball from teammates and was running noticably faster than he had all game in thefinal minute. One of his teammates snatched the final rebound as time expired and Blatche threw his arms up in disbelief. Reminded me of Ricky Davis

Dude just doesnt seem like a winner. Has a bad attitude too. He is a great fantasy player though
Jun 21, 2011 7:28pm
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Jun 21, 2011 7:30 PM
More of the same

@Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
Its sounding more & more like the #Cavs won't trade up for @dwilluofa23 rather will trade down. CLE not in love w/ Kanter it's a smokescreen
Jun 21, 2011 7:30pm
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Jun 21, 2011 7:37 PM
devil1197;809041 wrote:Cleveland would select Jonas, who would not be in the NBA next season, at #6.


I would be alright with this. It sounds like the Cavs arent the only ones that like Jonas more than Kanter. I would be happy with any of the following at 18
Burks
T Thompson
Singleton
K Thompson
Jun 21, 2011 7:37pm
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Jun 21, 2011 8:51 PM
[video=youtube;lDzRvZcFn48][/video]

Here's that Blatche video I was talking about. Some of you probably remember it.
Jun 21, 2011 8:51pm
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Jun 21, 2011 11:40 PM
San Antonio has Parker on the block for a lottery pick. I don't want him in Cleveland. But I'm guessing some team will at least look into it.
Jun 21, 2011 11:40pm
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Jun 22, 2011 2:11 AM
For some odd reason I can see the Spurs(my 2nd favorite NBA team because of Duncan, who I have been a fan since the days of teamming with Rusy LaRue and Tony Rutland) trading Parker to Minnesota for the 2nd pick and Johnny Flynn and have Parker team with Rubio. Then with the 2nd pick they take Derrick Williams. I am probably way off base though and they will probably take a foreign kid who will be a stud.
Jun 22, 2011 2:11am
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Jun 22, 2011 8:42 AM
OneBuckeye;808603 wrote:JaJuan Johnson is similar in skill set to Williams, no? I would take him at 32 in a heartbeat. Where is he projected?

Eh not really. Derrick Williams is much more explosive and has a more consistent J right now. Also is a better athlete and stronger (JJ is 6'10 like 220)
Jun 22, 2011 8:42am
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Jun 22, 2011 1:05 PM
Couple tweets and tidbits

stevekylerNBA
Valanciunas says his agent still working buyout, but he could play in the NBA next season if his NBA teams wants him too

PDcavsinsider
Valanciunas confident contract situation will be worked out

Chard Ford:
On Tuesday, we were about 90 percent sure that Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams would be the first two players off the board on Thursday night.
Scratch that.
Late Tuesday night, sources told ESPN.com that the Wolves were strongly considering taking Enes Kanter with the No. 2 pick.
However, don't get out your Sharpie and write Kanter into the No. 2 spot just yet. The Wolves are continuing to debate between Kanter and Williams and are exploring a number of trade possibilities with both the No. 2 pick and players on their roster. The outcome of those talks will ultimately steer the direction of this pick

PDcavsinsider
Kanter says he and irving could win championships with #Cavs
Jun 22, 2011 1:05pm
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Jun 22, 2011 1:46 PM
So if the wolves go mental and Pick Kanter. Who do the Jazz take?
Jun 22, 2011 1:46pm
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Jun 22, 2011 2:06 PM
they should take Williams and use him as trade bait even if thye dont want him
Jun 22, 2011 2:06pm
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Jun 22, 2011 2:11 PM
Hb31187;810036 wrote:they should take Williams and use him as trade bait even if thye dont want him

Probably and then the cavs could do the same with knight! Lol....ala kahn/minny
Jun 22, 2011 2:11pm
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Jun 22, 2011 2:12 PM
someone will trade up to the 3 spot if Williams is there.
Jun 22, 2011 2:12pm
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Jun 22, 2011 2:51 PM
dave;810056 wrote:someone will trade up to the 3 spot if Williams is there.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Jazz and Cavs would make a swap of the 3 and 4 picks if Williams is there at #3.
Jun 22, 2011 2:51pm
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Jun 22, 2011 4:10 PM
Just throwing it out there

NBA Draft Rumors: The 9 Biggest Potential Moves on Draft Day

Memphis Grizzlies and Cleveland Cavaliers
Memphis Receives: No. 4 overall pick, $13.6 M Trade Exception

Cleveland Receives: SF Rudy Gay

Despite the fact that the Grizzlies have gone on the record repeatedly that they will not trade Rudy Gay, the team is undoubtedly giving it some consideration as they move forward.

According to Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio, the Cavaliers are actively exploring a deal to land Gay using the team's trade exception that they received for the LeBron James sign-and-trade to Miami.

The Cavaliers would finally be able to land a small forward to anchor their starting lineup, and pairing Gay with Kyrie Irving on draft night would represent a major upgrade for Cleveland.

The Grizzlies played their best basketball of the season last year once Gay went down with his season-ending shoulder injury, and it wouldn't be surprising to see them pull the trigger on this very attractive trade to accrue some financial relief and continue to get younger.

Memphis could take either Enes Kanter or another big man prospect at No. 4 overall to potentially replace Marc Gasol, who is scheduled to cash in as one of the premier free agents on the market this year.


Cleveland Cavaliers and Washington Wizards
Cleveland Receives: No. 6 pick, No. 18 pick

Washington Receives: No. 4 pick

The Cleveland Cavaliers are known to be shopping the fourth overall pick in an attempt to fill multiple needs on the roster, and it appears that they may have found a willing taker.

ProBasketballDraft.com reports that this is a very real scenario being discussed between both clubs, as the Wizards' interest in Kanter is very real.

The Turkish prospect has already stated his affinity to play for the Wizards because of his noted friendship with franchise point guard John Wall, and the interest between parties now seems mutual.

It's a steep price for Washington to pay in order to move up just two slots, but if Washington wants to have a chance at Kanter, this is the only way they'll be able to nab him. If Cleveland holds onto the pick, they're expected to draft the center at No. 4.

Cleveland would still be able to land an impact player at No. 6 while acquiring an additional first-round selection that would allow the team to build upon its depth moving forward.

The Cavs know that they have multiple areas of deficiency to address, and stockpiling draft selections would be the first step in a long process toward achieving that goal.
Jun 22, 2011 4:10pm
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Jun 22, 2011 5:51 PM
Common Man suggested that the Cavs use the 4 pick and dangle it for Tony Parker. He then suggested that they pick Williams #1
Jun 22, 2011 5:51pm
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Jun 22, 2011 5:54 PM
Simmons said in his podcast that he thinks the Cavs should pick Williams #1 and then pick Knight at #4
Jun 22, 2011 5:54pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:01 PM
jordo212000;810442 wrote:Simmons said in his podcast that he thinks the Cavs should pick Williams #1 and then pick Knight at #4

I wouldn't have a huge problem with that since I think there isn't a ton of separation between irving and knight. That is a huge risk though...just assuming knight will be there at 4. I personally like the Rudy Gay thing...that would be amazing although, not sure how much Gay has left on his current deal.
Jun 22, 2011 6:01pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:07 PM
I think Irving is much greater than Knight.

We'll see how it plays out.

However, Knight is going to Utah, there is no way he's there at 4. If he is, I'll be shocked.
Jun 22, 2011 6:07pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:11 PM
hoops23;810453 wrote:I think Irving is much greater than Knight.

We'll see how it plays out.

However, Knight is going to Utah, there is no way he's there at 4. If he is, I'll be shocked.

he would be there if we didnt take Irving.
Jun 22, 2011 6:11pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:15 PM
Pick6;810460 wrote:he would be there if we didnt take Irving.

Minny said they're taking Irving if we take Williams, then they'd just work out trades in the summer...
Jun 22, 2011 6:15pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:24 PM
hoops23;810465 wrote:Minny said they're taking Irving if we take Williams, then they'd just work out trades in the summer...

Minny is trading that pick if Williams is gone. No way Kahn does that with Flynn, Rubio, and Ridenour on the roster. Plus somebody will swoop in and offer a nice package for the right to pick Irving. Minnesota doesnt want the Cavs to pick Williams
Jun 22, 2011 6:24pm