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Jun 22, 2011 6:25 PM
jordo212000;810474 wrote:Minny is trading that pick if Williams is gone. No way Kahn does that with Flynn, Rubio, and Ridenour on the roster. Plus somebody will swoop in and offer a nice package for the right to pick Irving. Minnesota doesnt want the Cavs to pick Williams

Kinda like no way Minny would draft Rubio, Flynn, and Lawson? Please don't put ANYTHING past Kahn and Minny.


Besides, if somebody did trade with Minny, I'm pretty sure they would then pick Irving. You're not going to trade up just to grab Knight or Kanter.
Jun 22, 2011 6:25pm
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Jun 22, 2011 8:34 PM
Also heard of the possibility of the Cavs trading #4 to the Rockets for both of their first rounders or one of those first rounders and Courtney Lee.
Jun 22, 2011 8:34pm
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Jun 22, 2011 8:49 PM
BR1986FB;810581 wrote:Also heard of the possibility of the Cavs trading #4 to the Rockets for both of their first rounders or one of those first rounders and Courtney Lee.

I wouldnt do that yikes
Jun 22, 2011 8:49pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:19 PM
The Philadelphia 76ers and the Houston Rockets have emerged as front runners to obtain the #4 overall pick from the Cleveland Cavaliers, but sources say Denver is squarely in the mix to move
Thoughts on this? BR already mentioned the Rockets, how bout the 76ers and Nugs?
Jun 22, 2011 9:19pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:29 PM
Also heard of the possibility of the Cavs trading #4 to the Rockets for both of their first rounders or one of those first rounders and Courtney Lee.

I wouldnt do that yikes
FYI I was saying I wouldn't trade the 4th pick for the Rockets 1st rounder and Lee. Not a fan of Lee. Okay player, but he is a dime a dozen. You add him if you are on the fringe of the Finals. You don't add him if you are rebuilding
Jun 22, 2011 9:29pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:41 PM
jordo212000;810686 wrote:FYI I was saying I wouldn't trade the 4th pick for the Rockets 1st rounder and Lee. Not a fan of Lee. Okay player, but he is a dime a dozen. You add him if you are on the fringe of the Finals. You don't add him if you are rebuilding

I agree. I guess it depends on how the Cavs front office values the guys in the draft. If they dont want Kanter or Jonas and feel that the guys they want will be there with the Rockets picks at 14 and 23 I might make the move. I've looked at a couple mock drafts and a few of the guys that I'd like are still available at 14 and 23. I'd be happy with Irving with the 1st, Singleton with the 14th and Brooks with the 23rd.
Jun 22, 2011 9:41pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:05 PM
I agree you dont add Lee if you're rebuilding...But ifthe Cavs did add him hed immediately be the best big they have IMO. Hes a little better than a dime a dozen I think
Jun 22, 2011 10:05pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:10 PM
Hb31187;810742 wrote:I agree you dont add Lee if you're rebuilding...But ifthe Cavs did add him hed immediately be the best big they have IMO. Hes a little better than a dime a dozen I think

Courtney Lee isnt a big, hes a sg. Maybe you're thinking of David Lee
Jun 22, 2011 10:10pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:11 PM
Thats who i was thinking of, just saw Lee and David lee is the only one i even thought of lmao. Then in that case, Hell no hes not worth it


Courtney Lee's stock was highest a few years ago when he was with Orlando during their finals run, since then he kinda fell off the map
Jun 22, 2011 10:11pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:28 AM
I didnt hear it but there are some rumors on KNR that the Cavs are looking at getting the 7th pick and a player for the TPE.
Jun 23, 2011 11:28am
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Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM
KNR is the worst source for anything relevant. The morning show is anyway.
Jun 23, 2011 11:58am
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Jun 23, 2011 12:02 PM
No doubt, theyre a joke. I really can't stand to listen to that station anymore.
Jun 23, 2011 12:02pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:11 PM
Shhhh...Mantooth LOVES Hammer....
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Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM
HAHA, I'm just bitter. Made me look foolish three times with the Cowher house bs, Edwards being traded during the 2009 draft and the Amare trade BS. After that I had enough. Sick of them being wrong, reporting shit thats not true and me looking foolish when I call a buddy telling them what I heard on WKNR.
Jun 23, 2011 12:13pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:17 PM
For as much as I dislike Kenny Scrotum, I think he & Reghi do the best job of all of the hacks on there. Reghi still has NBA connections and when they source a rumor, they are on point more times than not. Riz will just pull stuff out of his ass for shock value. I could call into his show with a hot story and he'd likely run with it.
Jun 23, 2011 12:17pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:22 PM
I like Reggi and Rohda. I hata hate hate Hammer and Fedore, so annoying. I want a trick bag punk T-Shirt badly.
Jun 23, 2011 12:22pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:35 PM
OneBuckeye;811163 wrote: I want a trick bag punk T-Shirt badly.

Haha...agreed. Dildo !!!
Jun 23, 2011 12:35pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:38 PM
bases_loaded;811141 wrote:KNR is the worst source for anything relevant. The morning show is anyway.

Agreed.

Chad Ford

The Cleveland Cavaliers have the No. 1 and No. 4 picks in the draft. But will they also snag another lottery pick?

Sources say they have been very actively trying to do just that, with a massive $14.5 million trade exception as the device. The offer? Give us your pick and we'll take back a bad contract into our trade exception, which permits the Cavs to take back salary of more than $14 million.

In that scenario, the Sacramento Kings and the Detroit Pistons look like the most intriguing potential partners. Would the Kings be willing to give up the No. 7 pick if the Cavs gave them Ramon Sessions and took back Francisco Garcia? The Kings are already under the salary cap, but Garcia has $12 million over two years on his contract, and Sacramento would love to move him.

Or if it's Detroit, Cleveland could swallow an even bigger contract, such as that belonging to Richard Hamilton ($12.5 million next season) or Charlie Villanueva (3 years, $24 million remaining).

The Cavs would love to get Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson and Jonas Valanciunas in the lottery. Or they could also make a stab at getting Minnesota's No. 2 pick for, let's say, the No. 4 and No. 7 (or No. 8) picks.
Jun 23, 2011 12:38pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM
ProBballDraft:

The Cavs are very serious about acquiring Jonas Valanciunas and Tristan Thompson. Like both players a lot but preference is the center.

In SAC scenario Cavs could merely send Sessions and /or Manny Harris and not use the exception.
Jun 23, 2011 12:40pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:41 PM
Tonight should be fun...
Jun 23, 2011 12:41pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM
Hey I am going to be at an event in Columbus tonight and won't be able to follow the draft....would someone be willing to text me updates?
Jun 23, 2011 12:44pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:48 PM
Ty Webb;811186 wrote:Hey I am going to be at an event in Columbus tonight and won't be able to follow the draft....would someone be willing to text me updates?

No internets on the phone?
Jun 23, 2011 12:48pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:56 PM
RicBucher Ric Bucher
League sources now believe Jonas Valanciunas goes to Cavs at #4 even if Enes Kanter is still on the board. Story on the mothership shortly.
Jun 23, 2011 12:56pm
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Jun 23, 2011 1:02 PM
OneBuckeye;811163 wrote:I like Reggi and Rohda. I hata hate hate Hammer and Fedore, so annoying. I want a trick bag punk T-Shirt badly.

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Jun 23, 2011 1:02pm
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Jun 23, 2011 1:26 PM
KR1245;811195 wrote:RicBucher Ric Bucher
League sources now believe Jon Diebler goes to Cavs at #4 even if Enes Kanter is still on the board. Story on the mothership shortly.

YES!!!!
Jun 23, 2011 1:26pm