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Jan 11, 2011 10:41 PM
ccrunner609;634955 wrote:then he wont be there long, he gets 2 years max. If they go 5-6 wins in those seasons he is gone. And they likely are going to do that.

He'll get longer. He has the backing of the administration. That is what RR was lacking.
Jan 11, 2011 10:41pm
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Jan 11, 2011 10:44 PM
jordo212000;634939 wrote:that "Michigan Man" stuff was a joke. You shouldn't factor emotions and stuff like this into deciding who your next head coach will be. Hire the "best" guy for the job.

I think this Michigan Man stuff was largely responsible for the Rich Rod experience not working. Obviously the people spouting off about Michigan men can't play defense, but they never seemed to really embrace him or much less give him a chance.

The worst part about the "process" is that Brandon stated today that Hoke was his choice all along and that JH and LM were not offered the job. Then why not fire RR after OSU game and hire Hoke? He just wasted 6 weeks of precious recruiting time.
Jan 11, 2011 10:44pm
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Jan 11, 2011 10:46 PM
WebFire;634965 wrote:The worst part about the "process" is that Brandon stated today that Hoke was his choice all along and that JH and LM were not offered the job. Then why not fire RR after OSU game and hire Hoke? He just wasted 6 weeks of precious recruiting time.

Maybe he thought Harbaugh would have said he wanted to be in AA? Then I think he would have almost had to have gone with him.
Jan 11, 2011 10:46pm
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Jan 11, 2011 10:57 PM
Trueblue23;634952 wrote:I know a few players who were in Ann Arbor when Hoke was coaching, and they LOVE the hiring.

I'd take their opinions over those of some grads.

Of course there will obviously be some who like the hiring, but that wasn't my point. So Hoke would have been the first choice of these former players who "LOVE" the hiring?
Jan 11, 2011 10:57pm
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Jan 11, 2011 10:59 PM
Hamp89;634994 wrote:Of course there will obviously be some who like the hiring, but that wasn't my point. So Hoke would have been the first choice of these former players who "LOVE" the hiring?

Actually yes. The 3 people I know have endorsed him since the search started.
Jan 11, 2011 10:59pm
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Jan 11, 2011 11:07 PM
ccrunner609;634981 wrote:Oh yeah sure, write history as you like. UM wanted and backed RR so bad..they paid $2.5 million to buy him from WV. GTFOH.

As for anyone saying Hoke was their first choice is a flat out liar. He wasnt top 3.
You have no frickin' clue what you are talking about.
Jan 11, 2011 11:07pm
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Jan 11, 2011 11:18 PM
WebFire;634965 wrote:The worst part about the "process" is that Brandon stated today that Hoke was his choice all along and that JH and LM were not offered the job. Then why not fire RR after OSU game and hire Hoke? He just wasted 6 weeks of precious recruiting time.

You don't believe that though do you? I hope not.
Jan 11, 2011 11:18pm
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Jan 11, 2011 11:21 PM
They wanted him so bad after Les refused the first time and they realized Shiano was probably going to be worse than RR turned out to be. Yea they wanted him because they basically had to settle for him.

Webbie, if what you're saying is true, than Brandon can stick a pizza up his ass.

1. Like what you said about the 6 weeks of recruiting.

2. IF IF IF Les Miles WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED IF OFFERED (like ESPN reported), then we'd have Les Miles in Ann Arbor.

Don't get me wrong, I still like this hire, but I would have taken Les over Brady any day of the week.

Lastly, the whole Michigan Man thing doesn't mean he has to be a graduate of the University. Bo, Moeller, and Lloyd weren't students either, they just coached there and helped create/sustain the tradition. Maybe it's just me, but RR never Got it and it hurt him. Much like Cooper at OSU, he didn't really understand what it is entailed to be a coach at Michigan. I said it on another thread, but look at Kentucky with Billy G. Yea, he was a decent coach, but he didn't Get it at Kentucky, which is why he was gone after 2 seasons.
Jan 11, 2011 11:21pm
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Jan 11, 2011 11:27 PM
Webbie, whenever I see your avatar of Hoke, I think of this...



He looks like Steve Schirripa
Jan 11, 2011 11:27pm
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Jan 12, 2011 12:08 AM
I am not seeing the poor seasons like the ones with RR. Hoke's OC can and has run many different offenses and he will will get the defense to improve. I think DR will be the starting qb and they will win 7 or 8 games. The schedule is not that hard either IMO.
Jan 12, 2011 12:08am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:12 AM
WebFire;634965 wrote:The worst part about the "process" is that Brandon stated today that Hoke was his choice all along and that JH and LM were not offered the job. Then why not fire RR after OSU game and hire Hoke? He just wasted 6 weeks of precious recruiting time.

BRANDON IS A LIAR.
Jan 12, 2011 12:12am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:18 AM
Big Gain;635074 wrote:BRANDON IS A LIAR.

Naw he is just a moron with a lot of money is a horrible AD. I don't think he offered the job to Les though but I am sure he did to JH. Hoke is not a bad choice though IMO.
Jan 12, 2011 12:18am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:20 AM
ou1980;634104 wrote:Cowherd on espn radio just broke the news that miles is staying at LSU
He also broke the news that Harbaugh was staying at Stanford
Jan 12, 2011 12:20am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:22 AM
jpake1;634518 wrote:Another shitty hire IMO. You're UM, and you got a guy with a losing record? UM just ain't what it used to be. It had to be a UM guy, didn't it. Well be doin this in another 3 years.

Give the guy a chance. Michigan plays 8 teams a year that they should beat by talent alone IMO. Just play a little defense and they win 6 next year let alone if they have an offense which I think they will.
Jan 12, 2011 12:22am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:41 AM
bo shemmy3337;635097 wrote:Give the guy a chance. Michigan plays 8 teams a year that they should beat by talent alone IMO. Just play a little defense and they win 6 next year let alone if they have an offense which I think they will.

A few seasons ago, yeah, Michigan should have beaten at least 70% of their schedule on talent alone, but now, Michigan has one of the middle of the road talented teams. A lot of offensive talent, NO defensive talent. I think Hoke will change that though.

As an OSU fan, I think this is a decent hire for Michigan. We'll see if this guy can do it on a higher level than the MAC and the MWC.
Jan 12, 2011 12:41am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:46 AM
dwccrew;635124 wrote:A few seasons ago, yeah, Michigan should have beaten at least 70% of their schedule on talent alone, but now, Michigan has one of the middle of the road talented teams. A lot of offensive talent, NO defensive talent. I think Hoke will change that though.

As an OSU fan, I think this is a decent hire for Michigan. We'll see if this guy can do it on a higher level than the MAC and the MWC.

They got 3 games OOC they should win IMO and 2 or 3 they should win in the Big 10. I see them winning 7 or 8 with the new defensive look.
Jan 12, 2011 12:46am
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Jan 12, 2011 6:26 AM
Big Gain;635074 wrote:BRANDON IS A LIAR.

Sad part is, he may not be. So many factions at Michigan and they got in the way last time. Brandon, Carr and Mary Sue Coleman all effed this up. MSC didn't want Harbaugh or Miles. Brandon is on record saying Miles would never hire Miles "on his watch".

There was a lot of speculation the day RRod was fired that Hoke would be the guy, and that the rest was a show to appease the factions that wanted JH or LM.

Michigan athletic department is a mess right now.

Les Miles quote yesterday: "This isn't the same Michigan that I left." There may be something to that.
Jan 12, 2011 6:26am
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Jan 12, 2011 10:53 AM
If you don't believe this stuff, CB from Rivals just pretty much confirmed it. He said Miles was never going to get an offer and never should have even been talked to. Harbaugh should be the coach and even said at one time he was coming, but him and Brandon's egos were too big and they butted heads.
Jan 12, 2011 10:53am
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Jan 12, 2011 12:52 PM
Tate Forcier is not enrolled in classes for the spring semester.
Jan 12, 2011 12:52pm
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Jan 12, 2011 1:00 PM
karen lotz;635554 wrote:Tate Forcier is not enrolled in classes for the spring semester.

Big deal.
Jan 12, 2011 1:00pm
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Jan 12, 2011 1:10 PM
I'm stoked about Brady being our coach.
Jan 12, 2011 1:10pm
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Jan 12, 2011 1:16 PM
"We flew all night, but I assure you I would have walked to Ann Arbor"
Jan 12, 2011 1:16pm