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Sep 21, 2010 2:59 PM
DeyDurkie5;492271 wrote:haha Bucs 16 Steelers 13 is trollin?

No. LOL. Let's not act like that's what I'm talking about. You have trolled Steeler threads on here in the past. I could care less about a score prediction. You know some of the stuff you've pulled. At least own what you've done.
Sep 21, 2010 2:59pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:02 PM
killer_ewok;492279 wrote:No. LOL. Let's not act like that's what I'm talking about. You have trolled Steeler threads on here in the past. I could care less about a score prediction. You know some of the stuff you've pulled. At least own what you've done.

I've done it a few times at most, I'm not hiding from it becuase it's not that big of a deal. I hate the steelers more than any professional team, but I can at least still have a convo concerning them in a respectable manner. The times I did troll was just becuase Capone was being a dutthole and I felt like being immature and stooping to his level haha
Sep 21, 2010 3:02pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:06 PM
BR1986FB;492257 wrote:I don't think you'd have to worry about me rooting for Vick or the Browns if Vick came on board.

Probably a +1 here. Sorry can't get behind that.
Sep 21, 2010 3:06pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:06 PM
Ignore him. Hell, even us Steeler fans don't like him.
Sep 21, 2010 3:06pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:07 PM
killer_ewok;492293 wrote:Ignore him. Hell, even us Steeler fans don't like him.

+ 1 million infinities.
Sep 21, 2010 3:07pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:34 PM
Funniest. Thread. Ever.
Sep 21, 2010 3:34pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:44 PM
What's funny is after only 2 games, these Clown fans are talking new coaches,new qbs. They wouldn't know a good team if it snuck up on them and bit them right on the dick.

Go Holmgren Go!!!!!
Sep 21, 2010 3:44pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:50 PM
Art Modell;492336 wrote:What's funny is after only 2 games, these Clown fans are talking new coaches,new qbs. They wouldn't know a good team if it snuck up on them and bit them right on the dick.

Go Holmgren Go!!!!!

Funniest.Post.Ever
Sep 21, 2010 3:50pm
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Sep 21, 2010 3:52 PM
I am willing to bet every Browns fan on this thread knows more about the Steelers than Capone does.
Sep 21, 2010 3:52pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:10 PM
Art Modell;492231 wrote:Ben will get his job back because he's a top 4 qb in the league and a future 1st ballot HOFer that has 2 rings and probably get at least 2 more. But you Clown fans dont know jack shit when it comes to good qbs. He has to earn nothing back.

Oh come on...1st ballot HoF? You can't be serious with that BS.

He is NOT a "top 4" QB right now in the NFL either.


2009-5th ranked QB by QB rating
2008-24th ranked QB by QB rating
2007-2nd ranked QB by QB rating
2006-21st ranked QB by QB rating (Vick was 20th, lol)
2005-3rd ranked QB by QB rating

Looks to me like he's extremely inconsistant, 1 good year followed by one bad year. Sorry, but a "top 4" "1st ballot HoF" QB is not that inconsistant, period.
Sep 21, 2010 4:10pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:17 PM
jmog;492363 wrote:Oh come on...1st ballot HoF? You can't be serious with that BS.

He is NOT a "top 4" QB right now in the NFL either.


2009-5th ranked QB by QB rating
2008-24th ranked QB by QB rating
2007-2nd ranked QB by QB rating
2006-21st ranked QB by QB rating (Vick was 20th, lol)
2005-3rd ranked QB by QB rating

Looks to me like he's extremely inconsistant, 1 good year followed by one bad year. Sorry, but a "top 4" "1st ballot HoF" QB is not that inconsistant, period.

There are only 3 QBs in the league that can be considered 1st Ballot HoFers. Meaning, if they were to retire or be injured tomorrow in practice and never play a down again.

Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady

Ben wouldn't sniff the HoF if he had already played his last down.
Sep 21, 2010 4:17pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:23 PM
justincredible;492376 wrote:There are only 3 QBs in the league that can be considered 1st Ballot HoFers. Meaning, if they were to retire or be injured tomorrow in practice and never play a down again.

Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady

Ben wouldn't sniff the HoF if he had already played his last down.
I agree with that, and those are the only 3 I would say right now are sure fire HoFers.

Now, some others could get there, Rivers, Brees, Schaub, etc.

FYI, if had to rank current QBs, as in the last season or so (not career), I'd be hard pressed to have Big Ben in the top 7.

I'd have Brady, Manning, Schaub, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and probably Favre over Ben.

Now, is Ben a top 10 QB right now? Sure, but he's no where near "top 4".
Sep 21, 2010 4:23pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:24 PM
^^^You left out the GOAT....Matt Hasselbeck.
Sep 21, 2010 4:24pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:28 PM
Schaub and the HOF shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as of right now. He has A LOT of work to do. Same with Rivers. Brees, I can def see in the HOF.
Sep 21, 2010 4:28pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:45 PM
like_that;492395 wrote:Schaub and the HOF shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as of right now. He has A LOT of work to do. Same with Rivers. Brees, I can def see in the HOF.

Brees is close, I think. If he has two or three more seasons like his last couple he'll be in.
Sep 21, 2010 4:45pm
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Sep 21, 2010 4:53 PM
justincredible;492406 wrote:Brees is close, I think. If he has two or three more seasons like his last couple he'll be in.

Brees is damn close, but Rivers is good, but has done nothing in the playoffs that should warrant consideration for the Hall of Fame....it is not the Hall of very Good afterall.
Sep 21, 2010 4:53pm
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Sep 21, 2010 7:22 PM
I'd give up our #1 pick next year if Philly traded him to us RIGHT NOW... give me 4 to 5 years of what I just saw Sunday against the Lions versus drafting a 50/50 bust that will take 4 years to fully develop regardless. Thank you very much, give me Vick.
Sep 21, 2010 7:22pm
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Sep 21, 2010 8:02 PM
Yes they should sign him. As for his past, unlike most NFL criminals, Vick paid his debt and deserves the same rights as any other citizen to continue his career. What he did was horribly wrong but what Leonard Little did was murder and he was able to continue playing and no one seems to bat an eye about that.
Sep 21, 2010 8:02pm
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Sep 21, 2010 8:51 PM
rydawg5;492535 wrote:I'd give up our #1 pick next year if Philly traded him to us RIGHT NOW... give me 4 to 5 years of what I just saw Sunday against the Lions versus drafting a 50/50 bust that will take 4 years to fully develop regardless. Thank you very much, give me Vick.

Now that is pretty ridiculous. I am glad you are not the GM.
Sep 21, 2010 8:51pm
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Sep 21, 2010 8:58 PM
like_that;492687 wrote:Now that is pretty ridiculous. I am glad you are not the GM.

Yeah just let the smart GMs draft QB projects like Tim Couch and Brady Quinn for our first round pick. Or maybe get a stud WR, TE, and RB like Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, and William Green.

WOoo! What would we do if we missed out on that in replace of having Michael Vick for 5 years.

Oh yeah and not to mention, if we luck out and really suck this year, we will give a crap shoot quarterback at least 40m guaranteed!!!! WOOO!!!!! Bring out the dice baby, we in VEGAS!!
Sep 21, 2010 8:58pm
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Sep 21, 2010 9:31 PM
rydawg5;492709 wrote:Yeah just let the smart GMs draft QB projects like Tim Couch and Brady Quinn for our first round pick. Or maybe get a stud WR, TE, and RB like Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, and William Green.

WOoo! What would we do if we missed out on that in replace of having Michael Vick for 5 years.

Oh yeah and not to mention, if we luck out and really suck this year, we will give a crap shoot quarterback at least 40m guaranteed!!!! WOOO!!!!! Bring out the dice baby, we in VEGAS!!

With the lack of talent the Browns have, its going to take about 5 years to even come out of the shit hole they are in. So, by then Vick will be useless. The LAST thing the Browns should do is give away any draft picks let alone first round draft picks. That is part of the reason why they are in this situation now. Congrats getting a hard on over one good game vs the Lions defense. Nice fail.

I would def sign Vick if the price is right for next season, but no way in hell I give away a first rd pick for him.
Sep 21, 2010 9:31pm
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Sep 21, 2010 9:42 PM
Vick would help the browns more than any player they could draft with that #1 pick. He still has his explosiveness so if the browns line keeps allowing the QB to be pressured he has the ability to escape. He would force teams to basically put a spy on him which is 1 less defender geared towards stopping the run or dropping back in coverage. He has 5 or 6 good years left in him, and you KNOW what you're going to get with him, if you draft a player, you have no idea how he will pan out (and in the browns case usually doesnt end up well). And hed put butts in seats and sell tickets. Its a win win win
Sep 21, 2010 9:42pm
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Sep 21, 2010 9:49 PM
One of my favorite players on my all-time least favorite team......

I guess I would root for the Browns to beat the Bengals if that were to happen
Sep 21, 2010 9:49pm
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Sep 21, 2010 9:54 PM
why would Vick want to ruin his career by going to the Browns? He is better off going back to jail.
Sep 21, 2010 9:54pm
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Sep 21, 2010 10:13 PM
Browns wouldn't have to give up a 1st round pick to get Vick if Philly was going to trade him, anyway.
Sep 21, 2010 10:13pm