The 2023 Guardians Thread

Ironman92

Administrator

Fri, May 12, 2023 5:05 PM
posted by Laley23

Fry with a drive to the track and a hit. Arias with a hit and good ABs. Freeman with 2 hits. And Straw with a hit. That was it last game. So, we roll out there with Naylor at 5 and Rosario 2 instead of Fry and Freeman?? Fry who mashed lefties for Naylor who is like career .109 hitter vs lefties is fucking abominable managing. 

It sounds like Dusty Baker with the Reds (and his managerial career)….but it was always just brushed away and ok.

Don’t miss it.


Laley23

GOAT

Fri, May 12, 2023 5:13 PM
posted by Ironman92

It sounds like Dusty Baker with the Reds (and his managerial career)….but it was always just brushed away and ok.

Don’t miss it.


I remember those threads. 

I feel the Indians never really had this type of depth in the minors, while also in contention with current vets. So we have never been through it. Typically, it was, we are AWFUL, so let these kids stay in minors for half a year and buy an extra year of eligibility. Or, we are fucking GREAT, so lets choose which one we want to trade for Andrew Miller, etc. 

This is such a weird limbo. But the vets aint getting it done, so MOVE ON. They almost all have options remaining as well. So if it goes to shit, bring 'em back up lol.

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Fri, May 12, 2023 6:06 PM

I forget the rules for years of major league service, but that could be a reason to wait on bringing up Naylor.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Fri, May 12, 2023 6:30 PM

I don’t understand all of the rules either, but just put the best players out there. Don’t need to be treated like the A’s.

Laley23

GOAT

Fri, May 12, 2023 10:03 PM

It’s passed. You wait 2 weeks, you are good. 172/187 days counts as a year. Anything less, you’d get another year before arbitration. So unless we are waiting until next year, it makes no sense.

…caveat is you wait in case you have to send them down again.

Gardens35

Senior Member

Sat, May 13, 2023 12:09 PM

Current pitching staff doesn't have the chops to break in a rook catcher.

BRF

Senior Member

Sat, May 13, 2023 9:32 PM

That was a really nice and much needed win tonight. 

Laley23

GOAT

Sat, May 13, 2023 11:45 PM

Good to see the offense comeback finally. 

Laley23

GOAT

Sat, May 13, 2023 11:45 PM
posted by Gardens35

Current pitching staff doesn't have the chops to break in a rook catcher.

The alternative is the worst catcher in baseball, or a .050 hitter.


Gardens35

Senior Member

Sun, May 14, 2023 12:28 PM
posted by Laley23

The alternative is the worst catcher in baseball, or a .050 hitter.


Seems that they're sticking with the alternative for now. Probably make a change once the pitching staff is back to or near "full strength", particularly the starting rotation. An all rookie battery isn't the way to go.

Gardens35

Senior Member

Sun, May 14, 2023 1:56 PM

Nailz!

Laley23

GOAT

Sun, May 14, 2023 2:43 PM
posted by Gardens35

Seems that they're sticking with the alternative for now. Probably make a change once the pitching staff is back to or near "full strength", particularly the starting rotation. An all rookie battery isn't the way to go.

We will be throwing 3 rookies by the end of June. Bibee and Allen aren’t going anywhere. Williams is the best of them all and won’t be in AAA much longer. 101, with plus slider/curve plays immediately in MLB. Naylor has more experience with all of them, tbh, makes more sense to throw him out there.


Gardens35

Senior Member

Tue, May 16, 2023 6:06 PM

Jose on Bereavement Leave, Rocchio called up.

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, May 16, 2023 11:23 PM

Our catchers are 0/45 this month. But please tell me again that keeping Naylor down is somehow good for this team.

BRF

Senior Member

Wed, May 17, 2023 10:31 AM
posted by Laley23

Our catchers are 0/45 this month. 

That must be some kind of record. Geez

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, May 17, 2023 6:37 PM
posted by BRF
That must be some kind of record. Geez

On inept management?


BRF

Senior Member

Wed, May 17, 2023 7:40 PM
posted by iclfan2

On inept management?


Perhaps!

Ohhhhh….I see our old friend Clevenger is on the mound tonight.  Let’s see if he “fucks up”  Cleveland (or whatever he said that was close to that).


Gardens35

Senior Member

Thu, May 18, 2023 9:53 AM

Zunino's May.............0-27 with 21 strikeouts.

Laley23

GOAT

Thu, May 18, 2023 10:11 AM

Zunino being on this roster makes no sense. If you are going to be THAT bad of a hitter, you better be a great catcher. Yet, he happens to be the absolute worst catcher in baseball defensivly. To the point our pitchers wont throw breaking balls too low and out of the zone becasue they end up at the backstop. Its criminal he is still taking a roster spot.

Gardens35

Senior Member

Thu, May 18, 2023 10:50 AM

I get the argument FOR Bo Naylor, and I agree. I'll just be surprised if they make that move while McKenzie and/or Civale are still on the shelf.


Tribe signed Zunino to a one year deal for $6 million.

Bucs signed Hedges to a one year deal for $5 million.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, May 18, 2023 12:21 PM

posted by Gardens35

I get the argument FOR Bo Naylor, and I agree. I'll just be surprised if they make that move while McKenzie and/or Civale are still on the shelf.


Tribe signed Zunino to a one year deal for $6 million.

Bucs signed Hedges to a one year deal for $5 million.

Fun Fact: Lot of Pirates fans are questioning Hedges getting the bulk of the starts even though he's a great guy behind the plate. But he's batting .170 or so, while backup Delay is over .300 and they have super highly regarded prospects at AAA and AA. Endy Rodriguez, the AAA guy, is only doing "meh" so far, but Henry Davis, the AA guy, is absolutely dominating and considering he's a 23-year-old guy who did college, shouldn't be stuck at AA.

BRF

Senior Member

Thu, May 18, 2023 6:08 PM

Hey, our catcher did good today!

Laley23

GOAT

Thu, May 18, 2023 9:04 PM

If you are a great catcher, .200 is fine. Yan, Perez, Hedges fit that category. When you’re as bad as Zunino, it’s gotta be .250+ and even still need some power.

Ironman92

Administrator

Thu, May 18, 2023 9:58 PM
posted by Gardens35

Zunino's May.............0-27 with 21 strikeouts.

I feel like I could do that