posted by gut
Crazy thing is, if they hate Trump and MAGA so much, then killing him is about as dumb as it gets promoting JD Vance to POTUS for 8 years.

Do you think the average assassination-happy whack-job is considering the fine details like "How is this going to effect what happens even one second after I've done my thing?" After the guy who realized the best way to get to Trump was to just stake out the local golf courses got caught and his manifesto stuff started getting released, his ramblings could basically get summed up as "I have strong feelings on this. This needs to happen." And that was it. No real thought about how a successful kill shot on the guy running for president just might impact things like political races, or lead to more nutcases declaring open season on any politician they dislike or whatever. Just "Imma shoot my shot and make the world better!!!!!!".

Any rational mind can think: "Even if I think Trump is absolute shit, he's also an old man who doesn't come off as being all there in the brain nowadays and none of his followers remotely have his presence or charisma, so when nature takes its course, MAGA will likely become increasingly irrelevant as time goes on. And if he keeps getting chances to get on a stage and babble out nonsensical word salad, that descent might even happen sooner than expected." But that's not where they're at.

I just looked for a video of Obama talking down to and shaming a group of Asian men.

Can't find any clips of him doing that to Indians, Muslims, Native Americans or any other group.

posted by Heretic

Do you think the average assassination-happy whack-job is considering the fine details like "How is this going to effect what happens even one second after I've done my thing?" After the guy who realized the best way to get to Trump was to just stake out the local golf courses got caught and his manifesto stuff started getting released, his ramblings could basically get summed up as "I have strong feelings on this. This needs to happen." And that was it. No real thought about how a successful kill shot on the guy running for president just might impact things like political races, or lead to more nutcases declaring open season on any politician they dislike or whatever. Just "Imma shoot my shot and make the world better!!!!!!".

Any rational mind can think: "Even if I think Trump is absolute shit, he's also an old man who doesn't come off as being all there in the brain nowadays and none of his followers remotely have his presence or charisma, so when nature takes its course, MAGA will likely become increasingly irrelevant as time goes on. And if he keeps getting chances to get on a stage and babble out nonsensical word salad, that descent might even happen sooner than expected." But that's not where they're at.

This is where DeSantis played himself.  He could've been the VP and easily ridden the MAGA wave in 2028/2032.

posted by Trueblue23

This is where DeSantis played himself.  He could've been the VP and easily ridden the MAGA wave in 2028/2032.

I think De Santis is a great governor. I'm not sure how he'd be as VP but I'd venture he'd be better than Vance. But that's me being disinterested in Vance. I will say that he's the only one on the tickets who knows what it is to be dirt poor, living in a house that went into debt just to eat. Perhaps the working class/working poor can identify with him the most.

I think Tulsi would have been the better pick. She would have been the one reason for me to vote Trump. I'm not the only one who thinks that way, either. 

I still think that Harris wins in the end. Too many people completely buy into the polls. I think they are fun to look at in their own right, but 2016 showed me that the models are lacking.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/pressure-mounts-cbs-news-release-full-kamala-harris-interview-transcript

"Given how awful Harris looked even after CBS chose to deceive its viewers, this may well be the last serious interview she does before Election Day: The network has a clear duty to the public to share the whole thing,"

The fact that CBS @60minutes is refusing to release the full, unedited transcript of its interview with Kamala Harris is a huge scandal. Suggests that much of the entire finished product was manipulative and deceitful, and not just the one horrible example that was discovered.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I think De Santis is a great governor. I'm not sure how he'd be as VP but I'd venture he'd be better than Vance. But that's me being disinterested in Vance. I will say that he's the only one on the tickets who knows what it is to be dirt poor, living in a house that went into debt just to eat. Perhaps the working class/working poor can identify with him the most.

I think Tulsi would have been the better pick. She would have been the one reason for me to vote Trump. I'm not the only one who thinks that way, either. 

I still think that Harris wins in the end. Too many people completely buy into the polls. I think they are fun to look at in their own right, but 2016 showed me that the models are lacking.

Yeah Tulsi would've been my pick as well. 

And Im with you, I still think she wins - I have it 272 - 266

Vance is actually pretty good. His original detractors didn’t last long. 

Also, lol this is Bill campaigning for Kamala? He’s basically supporting Trump.

https://x.com/trumpwarroom/status/1845868462796603583?s=46&t=6w2XbPMrNrOkLnwSSn4TOQ

posted by iclfan2

Vance is actually pretty good. His original detractors didn’t last long. 

Also, lol this is Bill campaigning for Kamala? He’s basically supporting Trump.

https://x.com/trumpwarroom/status/1845868462796603583?s=46&t=6w2XbPMrNrOkLnwSSn4TOQ

None of this makes sense to me. 

On one side Dems are "Abort your babies, fuck yeah!" and then out of the other side of their mouths they say "We aren't having enough babies to do manual labor!"

My best guess is that they only want to flood our borders so then can have a whole class of indentured servants again? 

posted by CenterBHSFan

None of this makes sense to me. 

On one side Dems are "Abort your babies, fuck yeah!" and then out of the other side of their mouths they say "We aren't having enough babies to do manual labor!"

My best guess is that they only want to flood our borders so then can have a whole class of indentured servants again? 

Don't forget lifetime voters as well as the indentured servants....

posted by Trueblue23

Yeah Tulsi would've been my pick as well. 

And Im with you, I still think she wins - I have it 272 - 266

Tulsi would have been my first choice of everyone currently on the "scene", I think she would have won easy no matter if she had a D or an R next to her name.

I just don't know who will win currently, It will be real close around 270 each either way.

posted by CenterBHSFan

None of this makes sense to me. 

On one side Dems are "Abort your babies, fuck yeah!" and then out of the other side of their mouths they say "We aren't having enough babies to do manual labor!"

My best guess is that they only want to flood our borders so then can have a whole class of indentured servants again? 

So they can have more Democrat voters. The replacement theory myth keeps getting a bit more real. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

None of this makes sense to me. 

On one side Dems are "Abort your babies, fuck yeah!" and then out of the other side of their mouths they say "We aren't having enough babies to do manual labor!"

My best guess is that they only want to flood our borders so then can have a whole class of indentured servants again? 

What I find interesting is the cries of "abortion isn't murder" yet recently some guy up in Cleveland got convicted of 6 counts of murder, 5 adults and one unborn baby in the womb. I've stated before I'm not an anti-abortion type but I find it interesting the picking & choosing.

posted by iclfan2

So they can have more Democrat voters. The replacement theory myth keeps getting a bit more real. 

At least with illegals. They may not be legal to vote but if their child is born here you basically have Democrat producing machines.

posted by jmog

Tulsi would have been my first choice of everyone currently on the "scene", I think she would have won easy no matter if she had a D or an R next to her name.

I just don't know who will win currently, It will be real close around 270 each either way.

Agreed. She can make sense and talk in direct lines, which is something Americans are almost desperately wanting. And for those who care about what people look like, she's a "woman of color". Because identity politics is something that the majority of college grads have deemed important to them. I think that's a really regressive outlook, but here we are.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/jLtymjV7iRseaPx8/?mibextid=YlDasU

SNL lol

Very interesting that Harris will be taking an interview with Fox News. It will likely either win her the election or expose her for the fraud that she is. The guy interviewing her, unlike the MSNBC's of the world, is pretty fair but he should ask the tough questions.

posted by Ironman92

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/jLtymjV7iRseaPx8/?mibextid=YlDasU

SNL lol

Things are getting testy if SNL is starting to go after her lol

posted by iclfan2

So they can have more Democrat voters. The replacement theory myth keeps getting a bit more real. 

Ok, Tucker. 

Good Lord. 

posted by BR1986FB

At least with illegals. They may not be legal to vote but if their child is born here you basically have Democrat producing machines.

Yes, because all those second generation voters are all voting Democrat....oh wait..no they are not because no one group is a monolith.

posted by BR1986FB

Very interesting that Harris will be taking an interview with Fox News. It will likely either win her the election or expose her for the fraud that she is. The guy interviewing her, unlike the MSNBC's of the world, is pretty fair but he should ask the tough questions.

So glad she is doing a FOX News interview. It should be a good interview. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

Things are getting testy if SNL is starting to go after her lol

SNL goes after everyone, even Obama and Hilliary...so doubt it is testy 

Dana Carvey doing Biden is fantastic. 

 I also see it very close. I say Trump wins PA, and wins it. 

We most likely won't know who won until a day or so later due to recount and counting measures laws in close states.

I also fully anticipate lawsuits from both sides, if they lose a state close with the new rules. 

I fully expect Trump to claim victory no matter what too. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

SNL goes after everyone, even Obama and Hilliary...so doubt it is testy 

Dana Carvey doing Biden is fantastic. 

That's true. The difference between Obama/Hillary and Kamala is that Obama and Hillary were never as pampered as Kamala has been. They took their debates in unfriendly territory; Hillary got questions in advance for one of those that we know of. 

All that to say that it's now an unusual thing to see Kamala not being held in a soft embrace like she's an infant. A novelty, if you will.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Ok, Tucker. 

Good Lord. 

Well, to be fair, if it wasn't for Dems like Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer - and a small handful of other Dems - Tucker Carlson wouldn't be able to have a "story". 

posted by CenterBHSFan

Well, to be fair, if it wasn't for Dems like Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer - and a small handful of other Dems - Tucker Carlson wouldn't be able to have a "story". 

The great replacement theory is a bullshit argument. Complete and total bullshit.