College Football Playoff - Selection Sunday

HitsRus Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 3, 2017 7:53 PM
posted by slingshot4ever

They didn't lose to a 7-5 team by 31.  End of story.  Same reason PSU couldn't get in over OSU last year.

Yeah but at least the B1G was represented.  Yeah, it’s a little bit of karma for OSU, but the committee was wrong last year putting them in ahead of a conference champion,, and they didn’t learn anything from that.  This year they just compound the problem by leaving two power five conference champions out of the mix. Somebody please explain to me how you can be a national champion when you can’t even win your own conference? ( that is a rhetorical question).

 This system is the same shit as the BCS, and only marginally better. It was supposed to make sure that the national championship is decided on the field… But you still have the committee ( And all of the inherent built-in bias along with it)deciding who’s playing for it .

superman Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 3, 2017 7:59 PM
posted by Mulva

Why?

 Because fuck the committee.   Why go make money for them?  

Spock Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 3, 2017 10:07 PM

Big 10 set up nice to win literally every one of their bowls.

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
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Sun, Dec 3, 2017 10:20 PM
posted by wildcats20

Can't happen though. 

It will be Clemson and Oklahoma, I think. 

Derp

mhs95_06 Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 12:24 AM
posted by HitsRus

 This system is the same as the BCS, and only marginally better. It was supposed to make sure that the national championship is decided on the field… But you still have the committee ( And all of the inherent built-in bias along with it)deciding who’s playing for it ).

Whether its a computer programmed by humans, or a committee, there will always be disputes between the last in and first out.  The decision now between 4/5 is much better then when it was between 2/3.  I'll be happy when that contentious decision is between 8/9.

Iliketurtles Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 11:45 AM

Im late to this party but Im with others. That 4th spot was close and really OSU or Bama didn't deserve it. I probably would have put OSU in just because they won their conference championship.

I think OU beats Clemson in the Championship game.

Also Dan Wenzel had what I felt was a pretty good article about expanding the playoffs to 8 teams and doing away with conference championship games. Ironically in his scenario OSU was still left out of the playoff. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-make-college-football-playoff-even-better-032144320.html

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 12:08 PM
posted by Iliketurtles

Im late to this party but Im with others. That 4th spot was close and really OSU or Bama didn't deserve it. I probably would have put OSU in just because they won their conference championship.

I think OU beats Clemson in the Championship game.

Also Dan Wenzel had what I felt was a pretty good article about expanding the playoffs to 8 teams and doing away with conference championship games. Ironically in his scenario OSU was still left out of the playoff. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-make-college-football-playoff-even-better-032144320.html

His scenario is a flat out disaster. 

He added UCF as 8...sure, whatever. 

He said he was using the Nov 28 rankings. You know, the one from last Tuesday. He has USC as 7. USC was 10th. OSU was 8 and Miami was 7. 

Mulva Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 12:11 PM

I definitely support expansion, and also support higher seeds getting a first round home game, but I don’t think conference championships need to be elminated. That should be left up to the conference. I think it makes more sense to cut the regular season back to 11 games.

A 3 round playoff could start 3 weekends from now and still end the season at the same time.

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 12:27 PM
posted by Mulva

That should be left up to the conference. 

Disagree, I think it should be a requirement. 

posted by Mulva

I think it makes more sense to cut the regular season back to 11 games.

Agree.  But who will play Mercer in late November?

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 1:55 PM
posted by wildcats20

His scenario is a flat out disaster. 

He added UCF as 8...sure, whatever. 

He said he was using the Nov 28 rankings. You know, the one from last Tuesday. He has USC as 7. USC was 10th. OSU was 8 and Miami was 7. 

And it's weird. I'd noticed that he replied on Twitter that Wisconsin gets his bid in the final 8 over OSU because they won their conference championship (due to lack of conference championship games in his scenario).

Which is all good except for the minor detail that, with 14 teams in a conference, you have unbalanced schedules and Wisconsin definitely benefited from one of those, since they didn't play OSU, PSU or MSU (the three top teams in the other division) in the regular season, while playing in the weaker division.

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 2:27 PM

USC got in because they "won" the PAC 12. 

And also, I would give the bid from the ACC to Miami over Clemson. Miami's loss to Pitt is bad, but Syracuse didn't win a single game after beating Clemson. That is a much worse loss than Pitt. 

Classyposter58 Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 4:41 PM

They need to make it a requirement that a team must make it to the conference title to be eligible. Total bs that Auburn misses because they had to play an extra game that Alabama did not

FatHobbit Senior Member
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Tue, Dec 5, 2017 11:09 AM
posted by Classyposter58

They need to make it a requirement that a team must make it to the conference title to be eligible. Total bs that Auburn misses because they had to play an extra game that Alabama did not

I agree. How is the conference runner up not as worthy as someone who didn't play for the conference title?

 

I have no issue with OSU being left out really. 2 losses (especially the Iowa loss) basically knocks you out i think. I just don't think 2 sec teams deserve to be in, especially when they said they were going to give credit for playing a tougher schedule and Alabama didn't. Why not USC? I think even Wisconsin has a better resume. 

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