NCAA football

A Clemson home game would be fun to attend.

Clemson stadium is a valley isn’t is those stadiums always seem awesome

Some bad calls already. 

Holy Shit Pitt has dropped 3 interceptions (2 would be pick 6’s), running into punter and 3  3 and outs at home ball 1-3 Georgia Tech

Like people should be fired or lose scholarships not ready. Glad the hurricane remnants kept us from going

Mizzou putting in a valiant effort but Georgia is about to go ahead and win.  

Seems like even the powerhouses are struggling beating teams handily. 

posted by Ironman92

No do all that revisionist history and swap divisions.

posted by Ironman92

Wisconsin didn't have to play Michigan St, Ohio St, and Penn St every year. Those 3 teams account for half of Harbaugh's losses while at UM.

While I don't think Chryst was deserving of being fired. He did have a combined 9 losses to Northwestern, Minnesota, and Illinois. 

I don't believe Harbaugh has ever lost to those teams. If Michigan played Wisconsin's west conference schedule Harbaugh is likely 72-18

Harbaugh in the other division would look amazing. Didnt he have 3 loses to OSU when they were in the Top-10? Those loses probably result in playing OSU the next week in the B1G Title Game the next week, becasue they would've still won the division.

posted by Laley23

Harbaugh in the other division would look amazing. Didnt he have 3 loses to OSU when they were in the Top-10? Those loses probably result in playing OSU the next week in the B1G Title Game the next week, becasue they would've still won the division.

I just did a quick year by year comparison from 2015-present. If those Michigans teams played Wisconsin's exact schedule each year I have Michigan conservatively around 75 wins out of 93 games. That's an 80% winning percentage. Saban, for his career, is at 80% for comparison.

Wisconsin has only played OSU in 15, 16, 17, 19, and this year. I gave Michigan 5 losses still there.

Harbaugh is doing a very good job at UM.  They are overrated this year, but he is generally fielding a #8-#12 team.  Wisconsin has not been at this level during Christ’s tenure.

Still think it’s insane that they fired him.  This reminds me of Nebraska firing Frank Solich.  We all know how that’s gone.  

Not to mention these insane buyouts schools are willing to pay.  Insane

Good Lord. I just posted something. Didn’t mean to upset so many.

Never ever have I thought Harbaugh deserved to lose his job at UM

Does Chryst have a worse record than those before him that has earned a firing? Is there more to the story?

I think Wisconsin…I think 9-3

From 2000-2014 Wisconsin had 6 Bowl Game wins…..Chryst won 6 bowl games from 2015-2021

posted by Ironman92

Good Lord. I just posted something. Didn’t mean to upset so many.

Never ever have I thought Harbaugh deserved to lose his job at UM

Does Chryst have a worse record than those before him that has earned a firing? Is there more to the story?

You didn’t upset me at all. I’ll look for any excuse to get into a debate, and this seemed like a good one (has Harbaugh been good at UofM). I despise politic debates, but love going at it in sports.

posted by Ironman92

Good Lord. I just posted something. Didn’t mean to upset so many.

Never ever have I thought Harbaugh deserved to lose his job at UM

Does Chryst have a worse record than those before him that has earned a firing? Is there more to the story?

I don’t think there’s any more to it.  I think schools are just way quicker to pull the trigger on firing a guy than ever before.  Wisconsin isn’t going to be Alabama/Georgia/Ohio State no matter how many guys they fire.  

posted by Laley23

You didn’t upset me at all. I’ll look for any excuse to get into a debate, and this seemed like a good one (has Harbaugh been good at UofM). I despise politic debates, but love going at it in sports.

My argument would be that good is relative to expectations. I think that UM's fan base used to have a higher level of expectations than they do today.

I think one big thing on that sheet that needs to be taken into consideration is the one conference title. Seems that Harbaugh had been on some degree of hot seat for a few years and got a pass after 2020 solely because that was the fucked-up COVID year. My guess is that if he hadn't won a B1G title last year, he wouldn't be there now. Chryst hadn't done that and got off to a bad start this year with a team that just doesn't look like it will do much of anything.

Personally, I think Harbaugh got a longer leash than he should have simply due to his status with the school, but I also think the divisions in the B1G are unbalanced enough and skewed towards his half being WAY tougher on average than Wisconsin's half that using team records and division titles isn't the most accurate gauge.

posted by queencitybuckeye

My argument would be that good is relative to expectations. I think that UM's fan base used to have a higher level of expectations than they do today.

The UM fan base has not adjusted expectations.  They are delusional and think their program is elite.  And it was elite during the Industrial Revolution.  But not since.

I have a feeling Ohio State is going to woodshed MSU this weekend.  I think Mel Tucker's $95 million guaranteed contract may possibly be the most absurd contract in an sport full of them.  Without Kenneth Walker, arguably the best running back in the country last year, he has a losing record.