Jury Duty

33,369 posts 126 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:40 AM
posted by justincredible

One guy can't change a law in congress. One guy can, however, potentially prevent someone from going to jail or getting charged with a bullshit law.

You could run for congress...LOL

I get it. But a judge should be interpreting that. The case should be thrown out if its a BS charge and law. Or, like the case where the girl got 5 years in federal jail for shoplifting Wal-Mart by swapping barcodes and shit at the self checkout, is found guilty by the jury, and then the appeals judge tells them all to fuck off and lets her go. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:43 AM

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:46 AM
posted by Laley23

You could run for congress...LOL

I get it. But a judge should be interpreting that. The case should be thrown out if its a BS charge and law. Or, like the case where the girl got 5 years in federal jail for shoplifting Wal-Mart by swapping barcodes and shit at the self checkout, is found guilty by the jury, and then the appeals judge tells them all to fuck off and lets her go. 

JFC, no. I'm not someone that can go out and shake hands and kiss babies, put on a fake smile, toe the party line, etc. 


sportchampps Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:47 AM

It’s not just the rich who get out of jury duty. Any job that is tipped or has commission can also get out. It’s probably easier to get out of by being a server then any other job and I wouldn’t call servers rich. 


I’ve been called once and got out because it was when I was a bartender. My wife has been called once and was selected for a murder trial. I woulda been upset if I was her because she had to sit thru the entire trial but because she was alternate 2 she didn’t even get to give her opinion. They actually found the guy guilty and she said she woulda voted innocent because she had doubts. Also she shouldn’t have been selected because her dad is a lawyer and she demands perfection because of that. If she was 99% sure he was guilty and 1% he wasn’t she would die on a hill for that 1% that he must be found not guilty.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:48 AM
posted by justincredible

JFC, no. I'm not someone that can go out and shake hands and kiss babies, put on a fake smile, toe the party line, etc. 


I mean... you already have a whole advertising/campaining platform (ohiochatter.com)

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:49 AM
posted by kizer permanente

I mean... you already have a whole advertising/campaining platform (ohiochatter.com)

LMAO. I might get 2 votes from the 17 active members.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:54 AM

Some reporter questions me on something I’ve posted online and I tell them to GFT. Honestly, that might garner some support. I think I’d have to quit my job, anyway, because I work for a corporate media company. I think it’s against company policy. 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 11:09 AM
posted by justincredible

I don't know if a scenario like this is even possible, but if I'm serving on a jury of someone busted with psychedelics or more weed than is just a civil offense, I can't in good conscience say "guilty, send them to jail." 

This. Nothing other than harming another human's person or property should be illegal. I'm not sending someone to prison because there are people who disagree with that view.

Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 12:56 PM

Oh….. so you think killing baby seals is ok.


‘Mercia.    Home of the free Bambi killers.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 1:00 PM

Had one summons, but got out of it due to how, upon checking the court's website the night before (as instructed per said summons), it said that the case was settled or plea bargained or whatever, so I got a "get out of jail free" card on that shit. Which was good -- the weekend before was a race track weekend and Monday usually can be a busy day at work, so I'd have spent the entire day pissed off at how I have to go through selection proceedings while hung over AND also have to get shit done for work. Nothing is worth that sort of annoyance, especially not buzzwords like "civic duty".

BRF Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 27, 2022 2:40 PM

I’ve only had jury duty three times in my long ass life. I ended up never having served on one. I was excused once because I knew the attorney. The last time I received notice, the pandemic shut down came and that was that. 

My wife was seated for jury duty about 15 years ago on a slam dunk murder trial. She came home after day one and said she had to go back the next day because the first vote was 11-1. I asked her why she voted not guilty. (She is like sportchampps wife)

I remember when I was excused for duty, I got paid for showing up and had to hand my check over to the school board. 😡

Fred Garvin Senior Member
302 posts 6 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Sep 28, 2022 11:16 AM

My company does not pay if you are on jury duty. I know it could be a hardship for smaller companies, but across the board I feel that employees should be paid for that.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 28, 2022 4:37 PM

I was on a jury many, many years ago -- burglary.  The guy was guilty and we found him guilty; the evidence was overwhelming.  However, after several hours of deliberation the first vote was something like 10-2 guilty.  At some point after further discussion it was 11-1.  Then we reconvened with the judge and all parties for a few questions.  When we returned to deliberations we had another vote and were finally unanimous with the guilty verdict.  We asked the holdout what changed her mind,  she said we went back into the courtroom she looked at him (perp) and could tell he was guilty ............ JFC.   So you were looking at him all week, plus had all the overwhelming evidence necessary, but it took a full day of deliberations and then you finally looked at him again and just knew ......... wow.   Moral of the story, juries NEED good, reasonable, smart people to serve, don't try to get out of it. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:57 PM

It's finally my turn and I do have to report to the courthouse on Monday.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 21, 2022 4:44 PM

I've been summoned twice, and both times I called in the day before and was notified I was not needed.

I wouldn't mind serving once just to see what it's like.  But there's always that fear that you end-up on some high-profile months long case.

I think you can get out if you're a key employee or serve clients (like a lawyer or consultant).  Otherwise, a lot of companies will put you on unpaid leave and I think jury duty pays like $10 per day.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, Oct 21, 2022 4:49 PM

I think I get $19/day.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 21, 2022 5:07 PM
posted by justincredible

I think I get $19/day.

Before tax :)

Do you at least get a free lunch?
Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 21, 2022 5:09 PM
posted by Fred Garvin

My company does not pay if you are on jury duty. I know it could be a hardship for smaller companies, but across the board I feel that employees should be paid for that.

That’s bullshit that they don’t pay.  They operate under the protection of the US justice system but then offer nothing for the common good.  Corporate bullshit.


Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Oct 21, 2022 5:40 PM
posted by justincredible

It's finally my turn and I do have to report to the courthouse on Monday.

Thoughts and prayers.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 237 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Oct 21, 2022 6:24 PM
posted by gut

Before tax :)

Do you at least get a free lunch?

Negative. Gotta pay for parking and buy my own lunch.


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