Cigar thread

  • Thu, Jul 11, 2019 10:33 AM

    Here's a decent example of something that might make sense.

    https://www.cigarauctioneer.com/undercrown-sun-grown-corona-do-cigars/item-61734?auctionnum=3577473

    Well-rated cigar. Cheapest 5-pack I'm finding is $44.50 + shipping. Singles are around $9+. Split this box 5 ways (with their shipping is ~$25, not sure if they charge tax to Ohio). Add $5 for split shipping and you're looking at ~$30 for a 5-pack.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 11:33 AM

    CI seems to have a lot of ~90+ rated cigars for <$25 for 5 sticks.  Although the Rocky Patel's I just got were almost $10 a piece.

    Not sure I can tell the difference, not yet anyway, between a $5 and $10 cigar.  So the range I'll probably stick with is that $4-$5 in packs of 5.  I'm ultimately just trying to find a range of light-medium-full body cigars to stock my humidor.  It can hold probably about 35-40 sticks, so I'm looking to nail down 8 different sticks I really enjoy.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 12:10 PM

    So do you guys remove the cellos from your cigars or not?  Leaving the cellos on completely ruins the aesthetic - naked definitely enhances the collecting aspect.

    Since I'll probably smoke any cigar I buy within a year, probably doesn't matter, but my humidor doesn't really provide for good separation of the cigars.

    Considering aging some of my favorites.  Although it doesn't appear to be much benefit from aging, it might be nice to set aside a few of my favorites to try again in 5 & 10 years.  Maybe just get another small humidor and throw two of my favorites in every year to age.  Even if on average there's no improvement, you'd still have the thrill of not knowing what you're going to get, along with the satisfaction puffing away on a stogie you bought 15-20 years ago.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 12:15 PM

    I left the cello on the cigars I just got in, not sure if they'll stay on long term or not. I'm considering picking up a few tupperdor's as my collection grows. One for long-term aging, and one for infused. I'll probably use my wooden humidor for my regular smokes, and remove the cello from any stick in there.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 12:16 PM
    posted by gut

    CI seems to have a lot of ~90+ rated cigars for <$25 for 5 sticks.  Although the Rocky Patel's I just got were almost $10 a piece.

    Not sure I can tell the difference, not yet anyway, between a $5 and $10 cigar.  So the range I'll probably stick with is that $4-$5 in packs of 5.  I'm ultimately just trying to find a range of light-medium-full body cigars to stock my humidor.  It can hold probably about 35-40 sticks, so I'm looking to nail down 8 different sticks I really enjoy.

    Makes sense. My thought on a box break is that you can potentially try $9-10 sticks (there, I used it for the first time) for $4-6. I'll try to find more folks locally that smoke cigars. 

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 1:25 PM

    Anyone ever try the Nub coffee infused cigars? I'm really interested in them as a weekend morning smoke on the front porch.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 1:49 PM
    posted by justincredible

    Anyone ever try the Nub coffee infused cigars? I'm really interested in them as a weekend morning smoke on the front porch.

    I have.  I didn't care for it, but it was mostly just personal preference.  The quality was fine.  They're owned by Oliva, and Oliva knows what they're doing.

    As for the cellos, I usually take it off.  Doesn't really help or hurt it if you're keeping them in a well-tended humidor.  It's mostly a convenience and aesthetic thing then.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 1:54 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    As for the cellos, I usually take it off.  Doesn't really help or hurt it if you're keeping them in a well-tended humidor.  It's mostly a convenience and aesthetic thing then.

    I thought I read it helps limit the "marriage" of different cigars as the cello mostly only allows water vapor to permeate.  Longer-term it also helps prevent damage when handling older cigars.

    Like I said, I think I might leave the cello on cigars I plan on saving for a while.  That's assuming this isn't some kick I'm on that lasts for just a few months.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 3:09 PM
    posted by gut

    I thought I read it helps limit the "marriage" of different cigars as the cello mostly only allows water vapor to permeate.  Longer-term it also helps prevent damage when handling older cigars.

    Like I said, I think I might leave the cello on cigars I plan on saving for a while.  That's assuming this isn't some kick I'm on that lasts for just a few months.

    I guess I should have included that.  If you're NOT just storing them in a well-tended humidor, yeah, the cello helps.  Also, if you're going to be transporting them, it can be helpful, as well.

    But I pretty much just keep mine in the humidor with the humidity staying around 70, and I don't handle them much unless I'm about to smoke them.  For that kind of usage, the cellophane doesn't do much of anything.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 4:10 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    I guess I should have included that.  If you're NOT just storing them in a well-tended humidor, yeah, the cello helps.  Also, if you're going to be transporting them, it can be helpful, as well.

    I might be starting to understand what you meant about easier to maintain humidity with a full humidor.  Been opening mine several times a week, and each time it seems to lose about 0.5% humidity.  I'm thinking that's too much exchange of air being 1/3-1/2 full for those little Boveda packets to keep up with.  But I'm also stepping up to the 72% packets to see how that goes.

    Otherwise I think I'll take the cellos off my top row of cigars for viewing pleasure, and leave the rest in the cellos.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 4:22 PM
    posted by gut

    I might be starting to understand what you meant about easier to maintain humidity with a full humidor.  Been opening mine several times a week, and each time it seems to lose about 0.5% humidity.  I'm thinking that's too much exchange of air being 1/3-1/2 full for those little Boveda packets to keep up with.  But I'm also stepping up to the 72% packets to see how that goes.

    Otherwise I think I'll take the cellos off my top row of cigars for viewing pleasure, and leave the rest in the cellos.

    Mine has a removable shelf that sits at the top, and I used to do the same.  The shelf had the cellophane off; the rest had it on.

    Yeah, when I open mine, I lose a couple percentage points as well, but as long as I don't leave it open for too long and keep the humidifier full, it stays pretty close to 70% (it's at 69.5% at the moment, for example).

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 7:08 PM

    Started off with a Vicarias Blue then on to an Alec Bradley Prensado. The Vicarias Blue is my favorite cigar. Its the top selling cigar in the Jungle Jim's Humidor.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 8:53 PM

    Smoking an Occidental Reserve from one of the samplers. Super loose draw, okay flavor. I wouldn't buy it again. 

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 9:06 PM

    I think part of the issue with that cigar was that the tobacco was a little dry. How long do you let your cigars sit in the humidor after buying online before smoking them? I hope they aren't all dried out like that.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 9:41 PM
    posted by justincredible

    I think part of the issue with that cigar was that the tobacco was a little dry. How long do you let your cigars sit in the humidor after buying online before smoking them? I hope they aren't all dried out like that.

    I let one sit for almost a decade.  With the right humidity, it didn't really cause any problems.  In fact, the flavor changed a little, and for the better.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 9:45 PM

    Right, I'm not worried about over-aging them. I just want to make sure none of the others are dried out. You've ordered from Famous Smoke before, have you let them sit at all before smoking, or were they fine right out of the shipping box?

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 9:51 PM
    posted by justincredible

    Right, I'm not worried about over-aging them. I just want to make sure none of the others are dried out. You've ordered from Famous Smoke before, have you let them sit at all before smoking, or were they fine right out of the shipping box?

    I almost always have one or two within 48 hours.  I store the rest.  The ones that come might be a hair dry, but not problematically, and never that different from one supplier to another.

    Thu, Jul 11, 2019 9:53 PM

    Ok. I'll let these sit through the weekend and see what the next one looks like on Monday. I'll pick up a cigar or two at the new tobacco shop after work tomorrow to get me through the weekend.

    Fri, Jul 12, 2019 1:26 AM

    Had a nice midnight smoke.  Cohiba have never treated me poorly.

     

    Fri, Jul 12, 2019 9:24 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    Had a nice midnight smoke.  Cohiba have never treated me poorly.

    Had one of those at the bro-in-law's a couple weeks ago. Nice cigar.

    I picked up a Nub Connecticut 358 at the tobacconist today and just finished smoking. Enjoyed the hell out of it. Nice and mild.

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