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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 26, 2010 2:25pm
Count me in.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 27, 2010 7:28pm
I sent Group 1 the surveys.
I'll still take anyone who wants to fill it out for me as I am looking to get around 300+ done.
I'll still take anyone who wants to fill it out for me as I am looking to get around 300+ done.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 27, 2010 7:40pm
I'll do one.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 27, 2010 7:53pm
Group 2 has been sent.

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 27, 2010 7:54pm
I'll help ya out.
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Sonofanump
Mar 27, 2010 10:48pm
I've never going to the West End Tavern again.

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Mar 27, 2010 10:50pm
I will have it back to you by tomorrow evening.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 27, 2010 11:23pm
Haha.Sonofanump wrote: I've never going to the West End Tavern again.
Thanks to everyone so far.

hangonsloopy
Posts: 1,291
Mar 27, 2010 11:40pm
I'll do it.
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El Jefe Grande
Posts: 425
Mar 27, 2010 11:46pm
I'll participate.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 28, 2010 1:58pm
I didn't know there would be essay questions!!

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 28, 2010 2:04pm
Still need people? If so I'll do it

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 28, 2010 2:12pm
Sounds interesting. I'm up for it.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 28, 2010 2:12pm
One sentence would be fine but I knew some guys would go in-depth lol.se-alum wrote: I didn't know there would be essay questions!!![]()
Yes, karen I still need as many people as possible.

Apple
Posts: 2,620
Mar 28, 2010 3:07pm
So how did people answer? Having served on a trial similar to this, I personally didn't think there was enough information given about the case. But as devil said in our pm exchange, he risked people not doing the survey if he made the explanation longer.
Ultimately, I said I would choose the harshest punishment prescribed by law for the crime.
Ultimately, I said I would choose the harshest punishment prescribed by law for the crime.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 28, 2010 3:22pm
Yeah, no one would do the survey if I had laid out the entire case.Apple wrote: So how did people answer? Having served on a trial similar to this, I personally didn't think there was enough information given about the case. But as devil said in our pm exchange, he risked people not doing the survey if he made the explanation longer.
Ultimately, I said I would choose the harshest punishment prescribed by law for the crime.
There is something specific I am looking for in the case which is the reason for the research. I will get the data I am looking for when you guys just answer the questions based on strictly the information provided!
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 28, 2010 3:26pm
I was just going on the assumption that all the facts were valid and the evidence was solid. Because otherwise why would I do the survey?
I made my judgment based solely on the description given and not on any "but what if X" scenario.
I made my judgment based solely on the description given and not on any "but what if X" scenario.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 28, 2010 3:27pm
Thanks, that is exactly what I am looking for.I Wear Pants wrote: I was just going on the assumption that all the facts were valid and the evidence was solid. Because otherwise why would I do the survey?
I made my judgment based solely on the description given and not on any "but what if X" scenario.

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 28, 2010 3:38pm
I hate people who read too far into things.
Is there anything more annoying in college than the guy that does that vocally in class and never shuts up?
Is there anything more annoying in college than the guy that does that vocally in class and never shuts up?

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 28, 2010 3:51pm
When do you need these turned in?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 28, 2010 3:53pm
At least by the end of this coming week.DeyDurkie5 wrote: When do you need these turned in?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 28, 2010 3:56pm
So many people do that in one of my business classes. I'm all "shut the fuck up and let the good Doctor continue with his lecture please".SQ_Crazies wrote: I hate people who read too far into things.
Is there anything more annoying in college than the guy that does that vocally in class and never shuts up?

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 28, 2010 5:33pm
Haha, the other day a dude in my stats class wouldn't shut up and the guy sitting a few rows in front of me interrupted him and said, "if you don't shut up I'm going to come smack the shit out of you."I Wear Pants wrote:So many people do that in one of my business classes. I'm all "shut the fuck up and let the good Doctor continue with his lecture please".SQ_Crazies wrote: I hate people who read too far into things.
Is there anything more annoying in college than the guy that does that vocally in class and never shuts up?
I mean, we all laughed (because we were all thinking the exact same thing), but I'm not sure I've ever seen a professor laugh so hard in my life--he's a weird little Indian dude, I think he was shocked that the kid just shouted that out lol.

Apple
Posts: 2,620
Mar 28, 2010 6:18pm
I couldn't agree more... and like you mentioned, it's even more annoying when you're the teacher.SQ_Crazies wrote: I hate people who read too far into things.
Is there anything more annoying in college than the guy that does that vocally in class and never shuts up?
Question 2 asked, "After reviewing the case, would you select a guilty or not guilty verdict for Ms. Jane Doe in the murder of Mr. Smith?". Like I said, I've been on the jury of a murder trial. The seriousness of the experience is incredible.
Though some might say it's annoying, I would have to say, "Not guilty", precisely because there was not enough evidence in devil's synopsis. As far as I can tell, the case scenario presented by devils is only hearsay and did not come close to proving guilt.
If the case is explored in it's simplest of terms that it is a proven fact that Ms. Jane Doe shot and killed Mr. Smith and nothing else matters, then why muddy the case mentioning the race of the perp and victim and why even bring up the verbal exchanges between them?
If however, the race of the perp and victim are important to the case, as well as the facts that they had non-specific verbal exchanges and the perp has a history of alcohol probllems, then why is it annoying to ask if there is other information about the case before determining a sentence?
I see the survey as nothing more than determining what the penalty should be for a crime committed by someone who was offended by what someone else said. We are not afforded the information if what was said was racially motivated or if a hate crime was committed.
It could almost be determined by the case study given that the perp did not heed the age-old childhood saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"... especially if alcohol is being consumed.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 29, 2010 11:18am
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