Tuition would be a limiting factor if in fact everyone who attends the school has to pay tuition.

Who paid LeBron's tuition??

Prescott wrote: Tuition would be a limiting factor if in fact everyone who attends the school has to pay tuition.

Who paid LeBron's tuition??

Prescott wrote: Tuition would be a limiting factor if in fact everyone who attends the school has to pay tuition.

Who paid LeBron's tuition??

Some Catholic schools do give out athletic scholarships to students, also academic too. I know for a fact that St. Charles does, and Watterson, and Desales. Catholic schools also give tuition assistance to students.

ManO'War wrote: Tuition would be a limiting factor if in fact everyone who attends the school has to pay tuition.

You cant deny that a percentage of the general population is denied even the work programs and tuition assistance programs can you? Walk through the hallways at Steubenville and look around, you will find them I call them driftwood students. They get up in the morning and the only reason they are in school is because the law says they have to! They contribute nothing, but a number that privates do not have percentage wise.

5knots wrote: This:
Nothing is more awful than the disrespect shown by the Moeller fans at the end. Just more fuel on my fire to get rid of all sports in private schools. No sense of community....the only people left to witness the trophy and medal presentation to their team were about 30 students and maybe 100 total fans...and I am being generous. Pathetic really. Yeah they chanted "we have Jesus" during the game but "Jesus" was no where to be found even in the fourth quarter...he didn't care enough to stick around and support his team. Moeller should be embarrassed by the disregard not only for their own team but for the team that schooled them on how to play basketball. My team came up a bit short Saturday but 90% of our fans stuck around not only for our own boy's awards, but to applaud the State Champions as well. Jackson, I am sure, would have done the same...congrats to the Polar Bears on your first Sate Title

I agree, and was shocked. I've always felt all GCL student bodies (including Moeller) have been great over the years. Hopefully this was an aberration.

redstreak one wrote:

ManO'War wrote: Tuition would be a limiting factor if in fact everyone who attends the school has to pay tuition.

You cant deny that a percentage of the general population is denied even the work programs and tuition assistance programs can you? Walk through the hallways at Steubenville and look around, you will find them I call them driftwood students. They get up in the morning and the only reason they are in school is because the law says they have to! They contribute nothing, but a number that privates do not have percentage wise.

Are the private schools to blame if they do a better job of motivating students to be involved and active?

^^^^ Motivation, really?

I swear, I have never been at a loss for words, but I am now!

Gotta agree with redstreak there, the privates do not have to accept the ones who don't want to be there, nor do they have a large amount of students on I.E.P.'s or any other academic plans

redstreak one wrote: ^^^^ Motivation, really?

I swear, I have never been at a loss for words, but I am now!

"They get up in the morning and the only reason they are in school is because the law says they have to!"

There is your quote from the post above. That sounds like the definition of a motivation problem to me. For the most part in life, people who are motivated and put in the needed work do well. People who don't put in the work, don't do well.

Are the private schools to blame if they do a better job of motivating students to be involved and active?

This argument is wrong on so many levels. Public schools must take students, who may not contribute much to the school or the student population. In fact, theses students might be a detriment, but they have to be "TAUGHT".

Public schools can expel students, but the process is a last resort and strict criteria must be met in order to expel a student. Expelling students in a private school is not an arduous process.troublemakers and under achievers can be handled quickly and without much problem.

Have you never noticed the relationship between income and academic achievement in schools that are considered part of a metro area?

unbelievable the attitude that private school people have.....better job of motivating???? wow, that is so offensive on so many level's to the teacher's across the country who teach in public school's. i don't even know what else to say!! i did'nt realize that private school teacher's went to special college's and learned how to be such great motivator's!! if only we all were so privaledged to witness such motivation....i feel so neglected...since i went to an unmotivated public school!!!

rmolin is certainly correct about the public school advantage in state Basketball Final Games in 2010. I think it is a healthy thing for the public schools to have a nice year and prove that they can play effectively against the private schools. I also think however, that to fairly assess the over-all competitive equality of the private versus the public schools, we need to perhaps chart the last 15 years or so of the results of the Championship games. I'm not saying this to be a smart--- or to prove a point, because I honestly don't know how this would actually come out, but I think it would give us a fairly clear look at the equality of competition betweeen the public and private schools and I'm also sure that this has been done before.

I think this is 15 years back as you can see Moeller, Akron St. V's, and North College Hill had a stronghold on their divisions for multiple years.

1995
D1 Zanesville
D2 Clev VASJ
D3 Orville
D4 Liberty Benton

1996
D1 Cincy Lasalle
D2 Orville
D3 Casstown Miami East
D4 Springfield Catholic Central

1997
D1 Clev. Heights
D2 Clev. Benedictine
D3 Patrick Henry
D4 Van Wert Lincolnview

1998
D1 Lakewood St. Ed's
D2 Clev Benedictine
D3 Sparta Highland
D4 Dayton Jefferson

1999
D1 Moeller
D2 Kettering Alter
D3 Bedford Chanel
D4 Worthington Christian

2000
D1 St. Xavier
D2 Warrensville Heights
D3 Akron St. V's
D4 Fort Jennings

2001
D1 St. Ignatius
D2 Kettering Alter
D3 Akron St. V's
D4 Tipp City Bethel

2002
D1 Columbus Brookhaven
D2 St. Bernard Roger Bacon
D3 Bellville Clear Fork
D4 Delphos St. Johns

2003
D1 Moeller
D2 Akron St. V's
D3 Bishop Reading
D4 Marion Local

2004
D1 Hamilton
D2 Ottawa Glandorf
D3 St. Henry
D4 Holgate

2005
D1 Canton Mckinley
D2 Upper Sandusky
D3 North College Hill
D4 Lutheran East

2006
D1 Canton McKinley
D2 Dayton Dunbar
D3 North College Hill
D4 South Webster

2007
D1 Moeller
D2 Dayton Dunbar
D3 North College Hill
D4 Georgetown

2008
D1 Newark
D2 Chillocothe
D3 Ottawa Glandorf
D4 New Knoxville

2009
D1 Columbus Northland
D2 Akron St. V's
D3 Cleveland Central Catholic
D4 Oak Hill

rmolin73 wrote: Boys State Basketball
Publics-3
Privates-1

Now where is the disadvantage?

You don't think 25% is significant?

When your talking 1 out of four teams no. It is ridiculous to think otherwise.

rmolin73 wrote: When your talking 1 out of four teams no. It is ridiculous to think otherwise.

it hurts when the shoe is on the other foot, eh?
In actual comparison of the % of Private vs % of Public competing...i think facts and yourself would point to 25% being a higher number then the % of Privates involved as opposed to Publics.

1_beast wrote:

rmolin73 wrote: When your talking 1 out of four teams no. It is ridiculous to think otherwise.

it hurts when the shoe is on the other foot, eh?
In actual comparison of the % of Private vs % of Public competing...i think facts and yourself would point to 25% being a higher number then the % of Privates involved as opposed to Publics.

What shoe? I am a public school supporter as well as a graduate of a public school. It just cracks me up how so many of you cry about the private schools. When 1) there are some private schools that are consistently winning and, 2) there is a shift in the big school division where the public schools are starting to dominate.