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77Legend

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Mar 24, 2010 7:38 PM
All-Time
PG-Magic Johnson
SG-Michael Jordan
SF-Larry Bird
PF-Tim Duncan
C-Shaquille O'Neal

Now
PG-Dwayne Wade
SG-Kobe Bryant
SF-Carmelo Anthony
PF-LeBron James
C-Dwight Howard
Mar 24, 2010 7:38pm
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mallymal614

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Mar 24, 2010 7:41 PM
Footwedge wrote: ^^Good list. I took the big O over Baylor though. Nothing wrong with picking Elgin though.
Nothing wrong with going with the Big O either. Anytime someone can average a triple double in a season had to be a bad boy!
Mar 24, 2010 7:41pm
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Lovejoy1984

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Mar 24, 2010 8:10 PM
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
We can agree on something.
Mar 24, 2010 8:10pm
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Mar 24, 2010 11:19 PM
Footwedge wrote: ^^Good list. I took the big O over Baylor though. Nothing wrong with picking Elgin though.
since when did baylor become a guard
Mar 24, 2010 11:19pm
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Mar 24, 2010 11:24 PM
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
Mar 24, 2010 11:24pm
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SQ_Crazies

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Mar 25, 2010 12:36 AM
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote: ^^Good list. I took the big O over Baylor though. Nothing wrong with picking Elgin though.
since when did baylor become a guard
Apparently when LeBron became a 4.

And those of you who put Larry Bird over LeBron are just hilarious.
Mar 25, 2010 12:36am
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Footwedge

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Mar 25, 2010 2:44 AM
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
You want me to list them? Frazier and Monroe were not in the top 5 in the 60's 70's era.
Mar 25, 2010 2:44am
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Footwedge

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Mar 25, 2010 2:55 AM
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
Cousy, Oscar, Sam Jones, and even Hondo come to mind first. Havlicek played both the 2 and the 3. I would also place Hal Greer ahead of the 2 you listed. If I looked it up, I would find a few more. Oh...and Jerry West...way better than who you listed...not even close.
Mar 25, 2010 2:55am
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Footwedge

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Mar 25, 2010 2:59 AM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Apparently when LeBron became a 4.
LBJ has played the 1, the 2. the 3, and the 4. And could play the 5 very well if asked to. Just like Magic played the number 5 when Abba Jabba got hurt. But this is stuff kids in college don't know about.


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Mar 25, 2010 2:59am
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SQ_Crazies

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Mar 25, 2010 3:10 AM
I realize. But he's a 3. Period.

Lots of guys have played multiple positions...in fact, most guys have played multiple positions.
Mar 25, 2010 3:10am
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Footwedge

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Mar 25, 2010 3:25 AM
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote: ^^Good list. I took the big O over Baylor though. Nothing wrong with picking Elgin though.
since when did baylor become a guard
Baylor is listed as a forward, but don't kid yourself. He dribbled the ball as much as as any guard on that team. His assists per year were very much guard like. Maybe you never watched him play.
Mar 25, 2010 3:25am
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Footwedge

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Mar 25, 2010 3:26 AM
SQ_Crazies wrote: I realize. But he's a 3. Period.

Lots of guys have played multiple positions...in fact, most guys have played multiple positions.
But somehow he's a 3 period? What a joke.
Mar 25, 2010 3:26am
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Mar 25, 2010 3:47 AM
He starts at the 3. He plays that role far more often than not. You can't label a player a point-center-forward. LOL, come on Wedge. You can't call him a 4, don't people bitch that he doesn't post up enough? He's certainly not a 2. He doesn't run the point. He's maybe seen 100 total career minutes at center. Shit, even when he's in a lineup as the 4, he's still on the perimeter the majority of the time.

He is the epitome of what a 3 is--somewhere between a guard and a forward. A mix of the best of both worlds.
Mar 25, 2010 3:47am
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Mar 25, 2010 12:35 PM
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote: ^^Good list. I took the big O over Baylor though. Nothing wrong with picking Elgin though.
since when did baylor become a guard
Baylor is listed as a forward, but don't kid yourself. He dribbled the ball as much as as any guard on that team. His assists per year were very much guard like. Maybe you never watched him play.
actually i did watch him play, many times. he still was a forward.
Mar 25, 2010 12:35pm
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Mar 25, 2010 12:41 PM
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
Cousy, Oscar, Sam Jones, and even Hondo come to mind first. Havlicek played both the 2 and the 3. I would also place Hal Greer ahead of the 2 you listed. If I looked it up, I would find a few more. Oh...and Jerry West...way better than who you listed...not even close.
you named a few and maybe you can name a few more. but that doesnt equate to tons. i never said they were the best of their era. i just found it odd that no one mentioned them. because the knicks back were one of few backcourts ever to feature two Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members.
Mar 25, 2010 12:41pm
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Footwedge

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Mar 25, 2010 7:03 PM
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
Cousy, Oscar, Sam Jones, and even Hondo come to mind first. Havlicek played both the 2 and the 3. I would also place Hal Greer ahead of the 2 you listed. If I looked it up, I would find a few more. Oh...and Jerry West...way better than who you listed...not even close.
you named a few and maybe you can name a few more. but that doesnt equate to tons. i never said they were the best of their era. i just found it odd that no one mentioned them. because the knicks back were one of few backcourts ever to feature two Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members.
The thread called for the best ever....not memberships of the top 50...that's why.
Mar 25, 2010 7:03pm
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Mar 26, 2010 12:05 AM
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
Cousy, Oscar, Sam Jones, and even Hondo come to mind first. Havlicek played both the 2 and the 3. I would also place Hal Greer ahead of the 2 you listed. If I looked it up, I would find a few more. Oh...and Jerry West...way better than who you listed...not even close.
you named a few and maybe you can name a few more. but that doesnt equate to tons. i never said they were the best of their era. i just found it odd that no one mentioned them. because the knicks back were one of few backcourts ever to feature two Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members.
The thread called for the best ever....not memberships of the top 50...that's why.
from a guy that thinks elgin baylor was guard
Mar 26, 2010 12:05am
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Footwedge

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Mar 26, 2010 2:53 AM
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
KnightRyder wrote: odd no one metioned the rolls royce backcourt of walt frazier and earl monroe.
Tons of guards from that era who were better than the Pearl and Clyde Frazier.
really tons of guards from that era were better. frazier and monroe are both Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members. were there some better guards, probably . but tons, not on your life.
Cousy, Oscar, Sam Jones, and even Hondo come to mind first. Havlicek played both the 2 and the 3. I would also place Hal Greer ahead of the 2 you listed. If I looked it up, I would find a few more. Oh...and Jerry West...way better than who you listed...not even close.
you named a few and maybe you can name a few more. but that doesnt equate to tons. i never said they were the best of their era. i just found it odd that no one mentioned them. because the knicks back were one of few backcourts ever to feature two Hall of Famers and NBA 50th Anniversary Team members.
The thread called for the best ever....not memberships of the top 50...that's why.
from a guy that thinks elgin baylor was guard
Sorry there pard....find a quote of mine stating that Baylor was a guard. You won't find one. I said he played like a guard for much of his career....which he did. You don't find too many guards averaging close to 250 assists per year. It happens...but it's rare.

As for Monroe and Frazier...they were great players in their own right. Didn't win anything until DeBusher was added to there roster. DeBusher put them over the hump.
Mar 26, 2010 2:53am
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Mar 26, 2010 2:54 AM
They didn't win shit until Phil Jackson got to town :)
Mar 26, 2010 2:54am