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Mar 20, 2010 2:32 PM
Alright doesn't matter if you double him...
Mar 20, 2010 2:32pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:32 PM
Poor man's Tim Duncan is a huge stretch. Homeless man's Tim Duncan at best.

It's a lot easier when you're playing guys who are all 6'7 or smaller. He's got skills, but he doesn't have the athleticism to do it against guys who are the same size and strength as he is.
Mar 20, 2010 2:32pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:33 PM
he has a natural feel for the game

footwork, touch, good recognition of where everyone is on the floor

his development will not be offense but defense

the tall, 6'10/6'11 athletic guys would go around him like nothing right now but for a late first or early second I could see it
Mar 20, 2010 2:33pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:37 PM
he's tired right now
Mar 20, 2010 2:37pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:37 PM
Back down to 3!
Mar 20, 2010 2:37pm
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LOL, that's why he's a poor mans Duncan. How athletic is Duncan? Not very. The kids game reminds me of him to a T. He just has to play better defense, even though I think Duncan's D is overrated--he's still a good defender. But offensively, it doesn't matter who you are playing against when you move like that in the paint. Nova has seen plenty of good big men in the Big East--why haven't they been dominated like this against all of those guys?
Mar 20, 2010 2:37pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:38 PM
St. Mary's coach waited too long

they were sucking wind

for two minutes
Mar 20, 2010 2:38pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:38 PM
Non wrote: he's just putting on a big man clinic
He's playing his way into a lottery pick.

The guy is a beast.
Mar 20, 2010 2:38pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:39 PM
Nova back in it now

St. Mary's has to regroup
Mar 20, 2010 2:39pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:40 PM
Nova getting away with everything on d now.
Mar 20, 2010 2:40pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:41 PM
yeah and the pace has impacted Samhan

now when he catches he's slightly winded from running up and down

St. Mary's needs a couple of long possessions before going inside
Mar 20, 2010 2:41pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:43 PM
Rotinaj wrote: Nova getting away with everything on d now.
I don't think so, they have been allowing them to be physical the entire time. Nova just wasn't trying to play that way early on. I figured they would in the 2nd half, now Saint Marys needs to work inside out and start hitting some threes again so they can open the paint up for Samhan to put Nova away late.
Mar 20, 2010 2:43pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:43 PM
they're going to let Villanova's guards ride the guys until they push off

then on the other end one tap will be a block lol
Mar 20, 2010 2:43pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:44 PM
I feel like Saint Mary's starting 5 has played the entire game...
Mar 20, 2010 2:44pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:44 PM
I don't think they've been bad so far though
Mar 20, 2010 2:44pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:46 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Rotinaj wrote: Nova getting away with everything on d now.
I don't think so, they have been allowing them to be physical the entire time. Nova just wasn't trying to play that way early on. I figured they would in the 2nd half, now Saint Marys needs to work inside out and start hitting some threes again so they can open the paint up for Samhan to put Nova away late.

Agreed.
Mar 20, 2010 2:46pm
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I disagree about the officials. IMO, the officials set the tone early on that they were going to let them play physical but neither team played that way in the 1st half other than in a few spurts. Now Nova has started to, Saint Mary's still isn't playing that way. When the officials are calling a game that way, the benefit goes to the aggressor and right now that's Nova.
Mar 20, 2010 2:46pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:47 PM
Its because Villanova is the aggressive team on D. Officials always get into a "groove" so to speak. If one team plays aggressive defense they let it go a little bit more. When the other team doesnt, they dont foul as much so the refs will call the fouls on more touch stuff to keep it even.
Mar 20, 2010 2:47pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:47 PM
28 points for Samhan

but you wonder about their guards now because they've been running ragged

it's going to be tough for them to shoot if they need to
Mar 20, 2010 2:47pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:47 PM
btw, I havent had an issue whatsoever with the officiating today. I think they have been very good all game.
Mar 20, 2010 2:47pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:50 PM
59-59

good game
Mar 20, 2010 2:50pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:50 PM
Reynolds ball fake on the 3 is nasty, but he gets away with a lot of walks.
Mar 20, 2010 2:50pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:51 PM
wildcats20 wrote: Reynolds ball fake on the 3 is nasty, but he gets away with a lot of walks.
That was not even close to a travel.
Mar 20, 2010 2:51pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:51 PM
Not on that one, I just mean in general.
Mar 20, 2010 2:51pm
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Mar 20, 2010 2:52 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL, that's why he's a poor mans Duncan. How athletic is Duncan? Not very. The kids game reminds me of him to a T. He just has to play better defense, even though I think Duncan's D is overrated--he's still a good defender. But offensively, it doesn't matter who you are playing against when you move like that in the paint. Nova has seen plenty of good big men in the Big East--why haven't they been dominated like this against all of those guys?
Duncan isn't a freak athlete, but he's MUCH more athletic then Samhan. And who are these great big men Nova has played in the Big East?

Greg Monroe? He average 24 ppg in 2 games against Nova this year, 8 ppg above his season average. He's a total finesse big man anyways, but they still couldn't stop him.

Samardo Samuels put up 21 on Villanova without missing a shot (4 of 4 shooting and 13 of 13 from the line). They couldn't stop him, so they fouled him.

Harangody? Give me a break. He's a 6'8 jump shooter.

The Big East is a heavily perimeter oriented league. There are hardly any true post threats.

And for the record, I'm a Samhan fan. There was an "Underrated players" topic on here a month or 2 ago, and I'm the one who brought up Samhan. His improvement from last year even is unreal. It didn't take until the NCAA tournament for me to notice him. But his game doesn't translate to the NBA at all in my opinion.
Mar 20, 2010 2:52pm