Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 17, 2010 8:00pm
They suck in a game, where he was facing a defense. I bet they were flawless in practice sessions when he's not in any danger of being hit.KnightRyder wrote:terrell pryor had a year to work on his mechanics and footwork and they still suckHighRoller74 wrote: Which is why for QB's the pro day is ridiculous. You take anyone who's played QB even a little bit, give them 3/4 months to focus solely on the mechanics/footwork of a QB, and they'll shine at the pro day. Hell I'm sure most everyone here could shine during a QB pro-day, I always prefer they look at game film for QB's as standing back their and shorts and a tshirt is a lot different then having a 300lb DT coming straight for you wanting to tear your head off.
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osu99
Posts: 333
Mar 17, 2010 9:13pm
any official time on Haden?
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Mar 17, 2010 10:41pm
I would love to see Timmy in a Browns Uniform
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 18, 2010 12:47am
i bet they suck in practice tooHighRoller74 wrote:They suck in a game, where he was facing a defense. I bet they were flawless in practice sessions when he's not in any danger of being hit.KnightRyder wrote:terrell pryor had a year to work on his mechanics and footwork and they still suckHighRoller74 wrote: Which is why for QB's the pro day is ridiculous. You take anyone who's played QB even a little bit, give them 3/4 months to focus solely on the mechanics/footwork of a QB, and they'll shine at the pro day. Hell I'm sure most everyone here could shine during a QB pro-day, I always prefer they look at game film for QB's as standing back their and shorts and a tshirt is a lot different then having a 300lb DT coming straight for you wanting to tear your head off.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 18, 2010 1:06am
LMAO, yeah...in 1983..KnightRyder wrote:earnest byners 40 time was roughly the same when the browns worked him outjordo212000 wrote: He ran a 5.0 40? are you kidding me?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Mar 18, 2010 3:46am
They suck so much he lead his Buckeyes to a Rose Bowl win after ANOTHER Big Ten championship.KnightRyder wrote:i bet they suck in practice tooHighRoller74 wrote:They suck in a game, where he was facing a defense. I bet they were flawless in practice sessions when he's not in any danger of being hit.KnightRyder wrote:terrell pryor had a year to work on his mechanics and footwork and they still suckHighRoller74 wrote: Which is why for QB's the pro day is ridiculous. You take anyone who's played QB even a little bit, give them 3/4 months to focus solely on the mechanics/footwork of a QB, and they'll shine at the pro day. Hell I'm sure most everyone here could shine during a QB pro-day, I always prefer they look at game film for QB's as standing back their and shorts and a tshirt is a lot different then having a 300lb DT coming straight for you wanting to tear your head off.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
Mar 18, 2010 7:15am
Oh c'mon, we both know that Pyror isn't the reason they won, he actually almost single handedly lost them the big ten championship with his poor play. He manage to turn it around from poor to mediocre towards the end of the year.LTrain23 wrote:They suck so much he lead his Buckeyes to a Rose Bowl win after ANOTHER Big Ten championship.KnightRyder wrote:i bet they suck in practice tooHighRoller74 wrote:They suck in a game, where he was facing a defense. I bet they were flawless in practice sessions when he's not in any danger of being hit.KnightRyder wrote:terrell pryor had a year to work on his mechanics and footwork and they still suckHighRoller74 wrote: Which is why for QB's the pro day is ridiculous. You take anyone who's played QB even a little bit, give them 3/4 months to focus solely on the mechanics/footwork of a QB, and they'll shine at the pro day. Hell I'm sure most everyone here could shine during a QB pro-day, I always prefer they look at game film for QB's as standing back their and shorts and a tshirt is a lot different then having a 300lb DT coming straight for you wanting to tear your head off.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Mar 18, 2010 11:26am
Way to much is put into 40 times. Anybody remember a guy named Anquan Boldin? He ran a terrible 40 time at the combine and I would say he is doing pretty well now.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
Mar 18, 2010 12:07pm
what was Boldin's time? Just curious
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 18, 2010 12:37pm
GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- The theatrics and circus atmosphere were long over, and the player who changed the face of college football finally was back in his element.
A man and his mission.
"Football is just a way to bring me closer to what's important for me," Tim Tebow said.
So there was Tebow, minutes after putting on a show for NFL teams during Wednesday's pro day workout at Florida, throwing a football with wheelchair-bound Alex Ross, a 17-year-old from nearby Jacksonville who was shot in the head in January and lost the use of the left side of his body.
Ross threw a football to Tebow, who caught the ball and summed up the day's events: "Let's see (them) come over here and critique that."
Yes, everyone, Timmy Terrific is taking this NFL thing serious. A little advice for the doubters: Don't bet against him.
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2010-03-17/improved-mechanics-tebow-shows-hes-quarterback
A man and his mission.
"Football is just a way to bring me closer to what's important for me," Tim Tebow said.
So there was Tebow, minutes after putting on a show for NFL teams during Wednesday's pro day workout at Florida, throwing a football with wheelchair-bound Alex Ross, a 17-year-old from nearby Jacksonville who was shot in the head in January and lost the use of the left side of his body.
Ross threw a football to Tebow, who caught the ball and summed up the day's events: "Let's see (them) come over here and critique that."
Yes, everyone, Timmy Terrific is taking this NFL thing serious. A little advice for the doubters: Don't bet against him.
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2010-03-17/improved-mechanics-tebow-shows-hes-quarterback
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Mar 18, 2010 12:57pm
4.71pkebker wrote: what was Boldin's time? Just curious
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 18, 2010 1:40pm
I seen on ESPN the same people who werent interested in him before arent interested now (Tebow).
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 18, 2010 1:47pm
40's from The Swamp. You can see it was kind of wet. Hernandez is a beast. Nelson may look slow, but he is 6'5" and ran 4.45. Haden has 4 years experience, he will be ready to start week 1 in the NFL.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 18, 2010 4:13pm
i remember reading marty schottenhiemer talking about when the browns went to east carolina to work out byner. they happen to see film on him when they looking at film of of offensive lineman terry long. the browns personal people couldnt believe how slow he ran the 40 when they worked him out, beacuse on film they never seen him ran down from behind. they came to the conclusion he had what marty called "competitive speed" he just didnt run a forty well when being timed. but put the ball in his hand and have defenders chasing him he could really go.SQ_Crazies wrote:LMAO, yeah...in 1983..KnightRyder wrote:earnest byners 40 time was roughly the same when the browns worked him outjordo212000 wrote: He ran a 5.0 40? are you kidding me?
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 18, 2010 4:19pm
wow they he won the big ten, thats like winning mac. big deal? and the rose bowl? wasnt that just another bowl game meant nothing? did it have any effect on the national title? he beat oregon , thats afar cry from beating florida , texas , or bama . he couldnt even beat a bad usc team on his home field. actually his played led to the loss against uscLTrain23 wrote:They suck so much he lead his Buckeyes to a Rose Bowl win after ANOTHER Big Ten championship.KnightRyder wrote:i bet they suck in practice tooHighRoller74 wrote:They suck in a game, where he was facing a defense. I bet they were flawless in practice sessions when he's not in any danger of being hit.KnightRyder wrote:terrell pryor had a year to work on his mechanics and footwork and they still suckHighRoller74 wrote: Which is why for QB's the pro day is ridiculous. You take anyone who's played QB even a little bit, give them 3/4 months to focus solely on the mechanics/footwork of a QB, and they'll shine at the pro day. Hell I'm sure most everyone here could shine during a QB pro-day, I always prefer they look at game film for QB's as standing back their and shorts and a tshirt is a lot different then having a 300lb DT coming straight for you wanting to tear your head off.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 18, 2010 4:22pm
doess anyone even know why they measure 40 times and is its correlation to football and how 40yds became the measuring distance
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 18, 2010 5:22pm
That doesn't surprise me. 40's are good just because to measure guys you want to have some sort of sprint, but there is way too much put into them--and personally, the fact that they aren't done it pads at the very least is stupid IMO. But still. The average player's speed is up from Byners day.KnightRyder wrote:i remember reading marty schottenhiemer talking about when the browns went to east carolina to work out byner. they happen to see film on him when they looking at film of of offensive lineman terry long. the browns personal people couldnt believe how slow he ran the 40 when they worked him out, beacuse on film they never seen him ran down from behind. they came to the conclusion he had what marty called "competitive speed" he just didnt run a forty well when being timed. but put the ball in his hand and have defenders chasing him he could really go.SQ_Crazies wrote:LMAO, yeah...in 1983..KnightRyder wrote:earnest byners 40 time was roughly the same when the browns worked him outjordo212000 wrote: He ran a 5.0 40? are you kidding me?
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 18, 2010 7:30pm
do you realize that some of the fastest players ever to play played in byners day. players such as Willie Gault , Renaldo ("Skeets") Nehemiah ,Curtis Dickey,Ron Brown, Bo Jackson. do you think there is five players in the game today as fast as these guy? 4 out 5 of these guys were world class sprintersSQ_Crazies wrote:That doesn't surprise me. 40's are good just because to measure guys you want to have some sort of sprint, but there is way too much put into them--and personally, the fact that they aren't done it pads at the very least is stupid IMO. But still. The average player's speed is up from Byners day.KnightRyder wrote:i remember reading marty schottenhiemer talking about when the browns went to east carolina to work out byner. they happen to see film on him when they looking at film of of offensive lineman terry long. the browns personal people couldnt believe how slow he ran the 40 when they worked him out, beacuse on film they never seen him ran down from behind. they came to the conclusion he had what marty called "competitive speed" he just didnt run a forty well when being timed. but put the ball in his hand and have defenders chasing him he could really go.SQ_Crazies wrote:LMAO, yeah...in 1983..KnightRyder wrote:earnest byners 40 time was roughly the same when the browns worked him outjordo212000 wrote: He ran a 5.0 40? are you kidding me?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 18, 2010 7:47pm
Do you realize what the word average means?
Let me spell it out for you, dumbass.
There were guys that played back in the 80s that were every bit as fast as guys playing today. But now, there are MORE guys running that fast--so the average 40 time is up. Hence the average player being faster. It doesn't mean that no one from the 80s could keep up with guys today.
God, I swear I've had to explain things like this so many times--the reading comprehension around here is fucking terrible. I think it's just that any time you say anything is better now than it used to be, some old man gets a huge internet boner to prove you wrong and interprets the post however he see's fit to put a young man in his place.
Let me spell it out for you, dumbass.
There were guys that played back in the 80s that were every bit as fast as guys playing today. But now, there are MORE guys running that fast--so the average 40 time is up. Hence the average player being faster. It doesn't mean that no one from the 80s could keep up with guys today.
God, I swear I've had to explain things like this so many times--the reading comprehension around here is fucking terrible. I think it's just that any time you say anything is better now than it used to be, some old man gets a huge internet boner to prove you wrong and interprets the post however he see's fit to put a young man in his place.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 18, 2010 7:52pm
It's just like when you say something like "put LeBron back in the 1960s and he would dominate the way no one ever has come close to" and they have to rebuttal with "haven't you ever heard of Bill Russell?! You're kidding if you think LeBron would dominate that easy!"
HAHAHA, are they serious?!
HAHAHA, are they serious?!
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 18, 2010 9:49pm
let me spell this out for you dumb ass, when you try to explain something that aint true thats why people dont understand it. for example the players i named where just few i could have went on with that list . but those were just few that came to mind . and i know for fact you cant even name 2 players in game today as fast those guys i mentioned. and no the average isnt faster these days. it actually might be slower , but i would say it basically same. and being that you are so fucking smart and you know so much about the game of football. tell me why they measure 40 yds and where did originate. come on .SQ_Crazies wrote: Do you realize what the word average means?
Let me spell it out for you, dumbass.
There were guys that played back in the 80s that were every bit as fast as guys playing today. But now, there are MORE guys running that fast--so the average 40 time is up. Hence the average player being faster. It doesn't mean that no one from the 80s could keep up with guys today.
God, I swear I've had to explain things like this so many times--the reading comprehension around here is fucking terrible. I think it's just that any time you say anything is better now than it used to be, some old man gets a huge internet boner to prove you wrong and interprets the post however he see's fit to put a young man in his place.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 18, 2010 9:58pm
LOL, if you think that isn't true then you're clueless and stuck in 1980 and I won't waste my time arguing with you.
Have fun calling me a pussy or whatever, but I don't waste time arguing with people like you.
Have fun calling me a pussy or whatever, but I don't waste time arguing with people like you.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Mar 18, 2010 10:16pm
Hey dumbass Bo Jackson ran 4.12, 40 show me one player over 230 right now that runs thatSQ_Crazies wrote: Do you realize what the word average means?
Let me spell it out for you, dumbass.
There were guys that played back in the 80s that were every bit as fast as guys playing today. But now, there are MORE guys running that fast--so the average 40 time is up. Hence the average player being faster. It doesn't mean that no one from the 80s could keep up with guys today.
God, I swear I've had to explain things like this so many times--the reading comprehension around here is fucking terrible. I think it's just that any time you say anything is better now than it used to be, some old man gets a huge internet boner to prove you wrong and interprets the post however he see's fit to put a young man in his place.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 18, 2010 10:22pm
Your reading comprehension must be lacking as well. SQ, said that there were athletes back in that day who could keep up with today's athletes and in some cases be better, but you guys just want to read what you want.2quik4u wrote:Hey dumbass Bo Jackson ran 4.12, 40 show me one player over 230 right now that runs thatSQ_Crazies wrote: Do you realize what the word average means?
Let me spell it out for you, dumbass.
There were guys that played back in the 80s that were every bit as fast as guys playing today. But now, there are MORE guys running that fast--so the average 40 time is up. Hence the average player being faster. It doesn't mean that no one from the 80s could keep up with guys today.
God, I swear I've had to explain things like this so many times--the reading comprehension around here is fucking terrible. I think it's just that any time you say anything is better now than it used to be, some old man gets a huge internet boner to prove you wrong and interprets the post however he see's fit to put a young man in his place.
Bo Jackson was a freak of nature, but that's not say someone else won't come out in the future to be as good, or better than Jackson.
Today's players on average are faster than the players of the 80's. And that's not a slight on anyone from that day and place. Some of those guys back then could fly, but as a whole they were slowler than the players we have now.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Mar 18, 2010 10:23pm
No actually I read all that I just needed a excuse to call SQ a dumbassHighRoller74 wrote:Your reading comprehension must be lacking as well. SQ, said that there were athletes back in that day who could keep up with today's athletes and in some cases be better, but you guys just want to read what you want.2quik4u wrote:Hey dumbass Bo Jackson ran 4.12, 40 show me one player over 230 right now that runs thatSQ_Crazies wrote: Do you realize what the word average means?
Let me spell it out for you, dumbass.
There were guys that played back in the 80s that were every bit as fast as guys playing today. But now, there are MORE guys running that fast--so the average 40 time is up. Hence the average player being faster. It doesn't mean that no one from the 80s could keep up with guys today.
God, I swear I've had to explain things like this so many times--the reading comprehension around here is fucking terrible. I think it's just that any time you say anything is better now than it used to be, some old man gets a huge internet boner to prove you wrong and interprets the post however he see's fit to put a young man in his place.
Bo Jackson was a freak of nature, but that's not say someone else won't come out in the future to be as good, or better than Jackson.
Today's players on average are faster than the players of the 80's. And that's not a slight on anyone from that day and place. Some of those guys back then could fly, but as a whole they were slowler than the players we have now.