Archive Illinois vs Ohio State

Cleveland Buck

Posts: 5,126

Mar 13, 2010 1:08pm

WVU deserves the last #1 over Duke, and both deserve it over Ohio State. The Buckeyes are not and should not be a #1 seed, regardless of what happens in the Big Ten tournament.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Mar 13, 2010 1:11pm

^ If they both win their tournament then yes. If not and the Bucks win the Big 10 then no.

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devil1197

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Mar 13, 2010 1:15pm

Cleveland Buck wrote: WVU deserves the last #1 over Duke, and both deserve it over Ohio State. The Buckeyes are not and should not be a #1 seed, regardless of what happens in the Big Ten tournament.

This wouldn't even be a conversation if Turner doesn't get hurt imo.

Yes, OSU when fully healthy is a #1 seed.

jordo212000

Posts: 10,664

Mar 13, 2010 1:23pm

WVU is more deserving than Duke. The ACC is awful this year

Scarlet_Fever

Posts: 736

Mar 13, 2010 1:27pm

Cleveland Buck wrote: WVU deserves the last #1 over Duke, and both deserve it over Ohio State. The Buckeyes are not and should not be a #1 seed, regardless of what happens in the Big Ten tournament.

I think WVU is most deserving. The only Reason Duke gets the nod over OSU is they have less losses. Well if Duke were to not win their tourney and OSU would then Duke would only have one less loss than OSU. OSU would have shared their Conference champion. (same as Duke) and won the conference tourney. (which Duke wouldn't have). Also, 3 of OSU's losses were without the best player in the Country. To me OSU would be more deserving. Duke just has history on their side.

Also, yes this thread did get sidetracked and should be renamed to allow another thread for todays game. Sorry Snotbublles that your thread was hijacked.

osu45804

Posts: 6,188

Mar 13, 2010 1:42pm

LETS GO BUCKS!!

Cleveland Buck

Posts: 5,126

Mar 13, 2010 1:42pm

Ohio State (25-7, 14-4 Big Ten)

vs. RPI Top 50 (w/ Turner): 5-2 (Wins: California, Florida State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan State)
vs. RPI Top 50 (w/o Turner): 0-2

Duke (27-5, 13-3 ACC)

vs. RPI Top 50: 7-4 (Wins: Gonzaga, Clemson (twice), Wake Forest, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland)

West Virginia (26-6, 14-5 Big East)

vs. RPI Top 50: 8-5 (Wins: Texas A&M, Marquette, Ohio State, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Villanova, Notre Dame)

If Turner plays Ohio State beats Butler which helps the resume a bit. They still wouldn't have won the game that Wisconsin blew them out. They wouldn't have lost to Michgan either, so their RPI would be better. The injury doesn't affect the resume that much though. If Ohio State wanted to be a #1 seed they shouldn't have given the game away in Morgantown.

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devil1197

Posts: 6,220

Mar 13, 2010 1:48pm

You cannot say that with Turner OSU still loses to Wisconsin. You just cannot underestimate the impact that he has on this team and how they operate. Thats a whole new ball game.

Then Butler is a HUGE resume booster along with another W.

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dtdtim

Posts: 358

Mar 13, 2010 1:50pm

UA5straightin2008 wrote:
dtdtim wrote: If Ohio State plays Illinois anything like they did the previous two times this year, they win running away.

Things are setting up nicely for an OSU/Michigan State rematch in the final.
O RLY?!

MSU chokes against minnesota..looks like it will be OSU>ILL PUR>MIN

and drum roll please....

OSU>PUR FTW!!

No complaints from my end...I'd much rather face Purdue/Minnesota winner.

I think it will also be OSU/Purdue in the final but I'll be rooting hard for a Minnesota upset.

At this point I think OSU is in prime spot for the best #2 seeding with a tournament championship. This is actually one of those years where I want OSU out west.

osu45804

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Mar 13, 2010 1:51pm

Nice Start ... Better than yesterday

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devil1197

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Mar 13, 2010 1:52pm

And for the sake of the conference, although I'd like to see OSU win the championship, I wouldn't mind Minnesota or Illinois fighting their way for a bid to join OSU, MSU, Purdue, and Wisconsin.

Cleveland Buck

Posts: 5,126

Mar 13, 2010 1:55pm

Illinois is already in regardless of what happens today. Minnesota is on the bubble. They should be in easily by beating Purdue and making the final, so both of them could still make it even if Ohio State wins the tourney.

Midstate01

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Mar 13, 2010 1:55pm

Good Start. I was worried Illinois would come out and get hot early. Hopefully we keep it up.

karen lotz

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Mar 13, 2010 1:57pm

I love Bruce Weber there on Diebler's shot. Before Diebler even caught the pass, Weber had both of his hands on his head

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mallymal614

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Mar 13, 2010 1:59pm

Will Diebler ever get some Defense?

osu45804

Posts: 6,188

Mar 13, 2010 2:02pm

A few ticky tack fouls early .... Lauderdale gets elbowed in the face and no foul

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mallymal614

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Mar 13, 2010 2:04pm

Tisdale is 8 foot tall.

osu45804

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Mar 13, 2010 2:06pm

Diebler on the bench now... Simmons in

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mallymal614

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Mar 13, 2010 2:06pm

This has to be the first time all year that Diebler been in foul trouble.

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mallymal614

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Mar 13, 2010 2:08pm

What is up with Ohio State giving up big leads the last few games!?!?

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mallymal614

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Mar 13, 2010 2:09pm

Does Hightower do all of Ohio State games?

karen lotz

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Mar 13, 2010 2:11pm

Simmons really doesn't belong on the court, I don't see how anyone can argue he should be getting more minutes.

osu45804

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Mar 13, 2010 2:12pm

OSU just looks so disinterested

karen lotz

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Mar 13, 2010 2:12pm

Right on cue from Simmons.

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mallymal614

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Mar 13, 2010 2:13pm

karen lotz wrote: Simmons really doesn't belong on the court, I don't see how anyone can argue he should be getting more minutes.

That is when the lack of dept comes in. There is no one else to put in over him. Unless Thad wants to take the chance with Diebler having 2 fouls.