
athlete37
Posts: 992
Mar 10, 2010 11:27pm
Horribly written piece

NNN
Posts: 902
Mar 11, 2010 2:53am
Well, let's think here. Here are the BCS schools within the boundaries of each region.slide22 wrote:I don't think its the cold.. but the fact that SEC teams do not travel hardly at all to play. Most of their OOC games are in the Southeast. They need to grow a pair and travel to the west coast, midwest, and northeast.thedynasty1998 wrote: Yea since it's so cold up north when these games are played.
Big Ten - Iowa State, Notre Dame, Pitt, Cincinnati
Pac-10 - none
SEC - Louisville, Georgia Tech, Miami, Florida State, Clemson, USF
And how about the BCS schools within one state of the outside of those boundaries (no overlap to the other conferences)?
Big Ten - Nebraska, Missouri, Louisville, West Virginia, Army, Rutgers, Maryland
Pac-10 - Colorado
SEC - Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Notre Dame, West Virginia, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati

Thunder70
Posts: 748
Mar 11, 2010 10:34am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and what does this mean...
and what does this mean...
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Mar 11, 2010 10:41am
This. They should have more games than others on this list. Common sense.goosebumps wrote: I'm not a ND hater, but Every game they play is a non-conference game lol. They were bound to pop up on the list a few times![]()

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Mar 11, 2010 10:46am
I think what NNN is trying to say is that there are more quality BCS teams surrouding the region of the SEC school's than in the northeast or the midwest. For instance,SEC schools frequently schedule ACC teams Florida State, Miami, Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, all of the Texas schools, etc. Those are quality opponents anyway you slice it. OSU and other teams only have a couple BCS conference schools to schedule from in their region UC, Pitt, WVU, Missouri and Iowa State. In other words, the reason B10 teams travel to play OOC is because they have to for the most part. The SEC does not.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Mar 11, 2010 12:42pm
Because they have to if they want to impress the Freehuddle nation.Azubuike24 wrote: All my point addressed is those people who claim the SEC only plays Sun Belt and FCS opponents OOC. It's not true. That's all. Where they are played wasn't part of my point.
Why travel when you can get the top teams from other leagues to come to your backyard?
Why play OOC outside your region when you know you have the inside track on a BCS national title game if you end the season with 1-loss or unbeaten?
The SEC has a distinct advantage in many areas (better coaching, better recruiting), but they also have a current system that benefits them and will always give them the benefit of the doubt over a team with a similar resume from another conference.
Why would ANY SEC team not go with the flow?

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Mar 11, 2010 1:06pm
I'd call it tradition instead of name recognition. I also prefer great defense to razzle dazzle offense, although Boise did play really tough defense last year. I guess I would take two power house schools with lots of tradition over the best game and up and comer is going to play this year. Alabama won the title last year, and Penn State is traditionally good, so I would rate that game higher.Little Danny wrote: I disagree FatHobbit. I think Boise plays an exciting brand of football. Ditto for Virgina Tech who always plays lights out special teams and solid defense and have an electrifying QB. Conversely, I think PSU is about as exciting to watch as watching paint dry. Alabama was not much better, their offense last year was three yards and a cloud of dust for the most part and they really under utilized the next great NFL receiver Julio Jones.
I am guessing you are basing your preference due to name recognition other than entertainment value. It is amazing to me the number of people who think that way.

Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Mar 11, 2010 2:47pm
Yeah, I did a brief search for a similar, better written article elsewhere but got nothing. It looks to be the only thing out on next year's non-conf gamesathlete37 wrote: Horribly written piece
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TheMightyGators
Posts: 438
Mar 12, 2010 7:31am
Do you know what Big10 schools don't do? Win National Champinoships. They've won 1 1/2 in the past 42 years. Is that because of those 1 or 2 extra plane trips per year?Writerbuckeye wrote:They get zero credit for always having these games at home or as close to home as possible (in SEC territory).Azubuike24 wrote: 7 of the 25 games involve SEC teams. They don't play anyone OOC though.
When I see SEC teams doing what OSU does every year, playing a top program in a home & home series where they actually have to travel by plane I'll give them credit.
Most SEC schools don't do this. One exception being Tennessee and another being Arkansas.
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TheMightyGators
Posts: 438
Mar 12, 2010 7:34am
This is correct. I didn't think any of the idiotic Big10 fans understood this, but obviously there are some that do.Little Danny wrote: I think what NNN is trying to say is that there are more quality BCS teams surrouding the region of the SEC school's than in the northeast or the midwest. For instance,SEC schools frequently schedule ACC teams Florida State, Miami, Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, all of the Texas schools, etc. Those are quality opponents anyway you slice it. OSU and other teams only have a couple BCS conference schools to schedule from in their region UC, Pitt, WVU, Missouri and Iowa State. In other words, the reason B10 teams travel to play OOC is because they have to for the most part. The SEC does not.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 12, 2010 8:40am
Coming from a fan of a school that took 100+yrs to win their FIRST major title in a major sport...that really hurts!TheMightyGators wrote:Do you know what Big10 schools don't do? Win National Champinoships. They've won 1 1/2 in the past 42 years. Is that because of those 1 or 2 extra plane trips per year?Writerbuckeye wrote:They get zero credit for always having these games at home or as close to home as possible (in SEC territory).Azubuike24 wrote: 7 of the 25 games involve SEC teams. They don't play anyone OOC though.
When I see SEC teams doing what OSU does every year, playing a top program in a home & home series where they actually have to travel by plane I'll give them credit.
Most SEC schools don't do this. One exception being Tennessee and another being Arkansas.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Mar 12, 2010 10:51am
For the people who say the SEC doesnt travel. Look up all the OOC games in the last 7 years. You might be surprised to see how much the SEC "does" travel. Alot of games vs. Big 12 and Pac 10. On top of that, there are plenty of good teams and conferences on the east coast and in the south. Why do they "have to" go up North? Its not cold in Aug-Oct up north like how people say and most OOC games are played EARLY in the year.

j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Mar 12, 2010 11:08am
i think LSU WVU is a home and home.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Mar 12, 2010 11:26am
Yes it is. And LSU went to Washington last year. Alabama has a home and home with PSU also.......not just PSU going to Bama.j_crazy wrote: i think LSU WVU is a home and home.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 12, 2010 11:29am
They could play and win all 7 away from home and you'd find some reason to discredit them.darbypitcher22 wrote: of those 7 games involving the SEC 5 of them are at home and 2 of them are Neutral site, one of which is in SEC country @ the Georgia Dome.
Take a trip above the Mason Dixon line then I'll be impressed

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 12, 2010 11:53am
Lot of talk going on from Florida fans whose team isnt even on the list. Because their biggest game is against Florida State..lol.
The LSU game.. I dont think its that big, just because I expect WVU to be horrible next year.
Same for the North Carolina game...its North Carolina, come on.
Alabama and PSU..I expect Alabama to beat PSU by a couple TD, especially since PSU will be breaking in a new QB. But with the defense it could be closer and maybe swing PSU's way.
I would like some of the schools to come up here in November. But thats really hard to do since the OOC is usually at the beginning of the season. JMO I think a Nat'l Championship should be played up North outside one year. Both teams would be playing on the same field. I believe the NFL is going to do it for the Super Bowl in a couple years. And dont even give me that crap about ticket sales.
The LSU game.. I dont think its that big, just because I expect WVU to be horrible next year.
Same for the North Carolina game...its North Carolina, come on.
Alabama and PSU..I expect Alabama to beat PSU by a couple TD, especially since PSU will be breaking in a new QB. But with the defense it could be closer and maybe swing PSU's way.
I would like some of the schools to come up here in November. But thats really hard to do since the OOC is usually at the beginning of the season. JMO I think a Nat'l Championship should be played up North outside one year. Both teams would be playing on the same field. I believe the NFL is going to do it for the Super Bowl in a couple years. And dont even give me that crap about ticket sales.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 12, 2010 1:00pm
Why in November? It's rarely that cold in November.Pick6 wrote: Lot of talk going on from Florida fans whose team isnt even on the list. Because their biggest game is against Florida State..lol.
The LSU game.. I dont think its that big, just because I expect WVU to be horrible next year.
Same for the North Carolina game...its North Carolina, come on.
Alabama and PSU..I expect Alabama to beat PSU by a couple TD, especially since PSU will be breaking in a new QB. But with the defense it could be closer and maybe swing PSU's way.
I would like some of the schools to come up here in November. But thats really hard to do since the OOC is usually at the beginning of the season. JMO I think a Nat'l Championship should be played up North outside one year. Both teams would be playing on the same field. I believe the NFL is going to do it for the Super Bowl in a couple years. And dont even give me that crap about ticket sales.
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TheMightyGators
Posts: 438
Mar 12, 2010 8:17pm
coming from a fan who has seen OSU win ZERO national titles in basketball and 1 controversial National Title in football, in his life time. Florida's won 5 in the last 14 years...that really hurts!centralbucksfan wrote:Coming from a fan of a school that took 100+yrs to win their FIRST major title in a major sport...that really hurts!TheMightyGators wrote:Do you know what Big10 schools don't do? Win National Champinoships. They've won 1 1/2 in the past 42 years. Is that because of those 1 or 2 extra plane trips per year?Writerbuckeye wrote:They get zero credit for always having these games at home or as close to home as possible (in SEC territory).Azubuike24 wrote: 7 of the 25 games involve SEC teams. They don't play anyone OOC though.
When I see SEC teams doing what OSU does every year, playing a top program in a home & home series where they actually have to travel by plane I'll give them credit.
Most SEC schools don't do this. One exception being Tennessee and another being Arkansas.

NNN
Posts: 902
Mar 12, 2010 8:40pm
So there's absolutely no reason why Ohio State or another Big Ten team shouldn't play at LSU in late August in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.Pick6 wrote: Lot of talk going on from Florida fans whose team isnt even on the list. Because their biggest game is against Florida State..lol.
The LSU game.. I dont think its that big, just because I expect WVU to be horrible next year.
Same for the North Carolina game...its North Carolina, come on.
Alabama and PSU..I expect Alabama to beat PSU by a couple TD, especially since PSU will be breaking in a new QB. But with the defense it could be closer and maybe swing PSU's way.
I would like some of the schools to come up here in November. But thats really hard to do since the OOC is usually at the beginning of the season. JMO I think a Nat'l Championship should be played up North outside one year. Both teams would be playing on the same field. I believe the NFL is going to do it for the Super Bowl in a couple years. And dont even give me that crap about ticket sales.
Unless, of course, they're afraid of melting in the suffocating heat and humidity.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 13, 2010 12:06am
I never said they shouldnt...its hot in Ohio in August...just like it is in Southern Cal and Austin, where the Buckeyes have been the past few years.NNN wrote:So there's absolutely no reason why Ohio State or another Big Ten team shouldn't play at LSU in late August in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.Pick6 wrote: Lot of talk going on from Florida fans whose team isnt even on the list. Because their biggest game is against Florida State..lol.
The LSU game.. I dont think its that big, just because I expect WVU to be horrible next year.
Same for the North Carolina game...its North Carolina, come on.
Alabama and PSU..I expect Alabama to beat PSU by a couple TD, especially since PSU will be breaking in a new QB. But with the defense it could be closer and maybe swing PSU's way.
I would like some of the schools to come up here in November. But thats really hard to do since the OOC is usually at the beginning of the season. JMO I think a Nat'l Championship should be played up North outside one year. Both teams would be playing on the same field. I believe the NFL is going to do it for the Super Bowl in a couple years. And dont even give me that crap about ticket sales.
Unless, of course, they're afraid of melting in the suffocating heat and humidity.
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Zombienation
Posts: 68
Mar 16, 2010 11:04am
I would personally love to see, any team from the SEC come up to BIG 10 country, around late november, when its freezing rain, sometimes snowing, and come out with a win. But the sad reality is, they won't. The teams from the SEC will NEVER come up here to play, EVER.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 16, 2010 2:03pm
This excuse has spread like the plague around Big10 country the last 20 years. Maybe the Big10 will return to the top in another 20 years.Zombienation wrote: I would personally love to see, any team from the SEC come up to BIG 10 country, around late november, when its freezing rain, sometimes snowing, and come out with a win. But the sad reality is, they won't. The teams from the SEC will NEVER come up here to play, EVER.
tOSU has 9 players from Florida. Do they only play the first 8 games ? Does Michael Brewster get his ass stomped in Nov.?

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2010 2:19pm
SEC schools aren't the only ones who are "afraid" to play in "big ten country." USC hasn't traveled to South Bend in November since 1959. They threatened to end the series if the game at Notre Dame wasn't moved from late Nov/early December. I would like to see the game played in November, but I'm not gonna bash USC because of it. It just seems like Big 10 fans (bucknuts) have a hard on for the SEC.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 16, 2010 2:32pm
what do you think calling them afraid is doing?karen lotz wrote: SEC schools aren't the only ones who are "afraid" to play in "big ten country." USC hasn't traveled to South Bend in November since 1959. They threatened to end the series if the game at Notre Dame wasn't moved from late Nov/early December. I would like to see the game played in November, but I'm not gonna bash USC because of it. It just seems like Big 10 fans (bucknuts) have a hard on for the SEC.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2010 2:44pm
I didn't call them afraid at all did I? I just was pointing out that it isn't just the SEC that doesn't travel north in November. Like I said, I would like to see the game played around the same time of the year each season like it was when the rivalry started. I don't think that qualifies as bashing or saying they are afraid.