BCBulldog
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Mar 13, 2010 6:30am
If Chapman is truly the kind of player we think he can be and if Volquez comes back with a similar level of performance as in the past and if Baliey keeps improving and if Cueto comes out of his sophomore slump...talk about a stacked rotation. Oh yeah, forgot about the #1 and #2 pitchers, too.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Mar 13, 2010 9:16am
That's still a lot of IF's.BCBulldog wrote: If Chapman is truly the kind of player we think he can be and if Volquez comes back with a similar level of performance as in the past and if Baliey keeps improving and if Cueto comes out of his sophomore slump...talk about a stacked rotation. Oh yeah, forgot about the #1 and #2 pitchers, too.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Mar 13, 2010 10:10am
That's what I was going to say haha... and I'm a Reds fan. I fully expect Cueto and the Harangatang to be back to their normal playing levels. Bailey, I'm not sure about. I think he'll good, but I just don't know. Volquez is almost a moot point, b/c he doesn't come back until mid-season, right? and once he comes back you know they will take it slow with him. Probably a wash of a season for him.Keebler wrote:That's still a lot of IF's.BCBulldog wrote: If Chapman is truly the kind of player we think he can be and if Volquez comes back with a similar level of performance as in the past and if Baliey keeps improving and if Cueto comes out of his sophomore slump...talk about a stacked rotation. Oh yeah, forgot about the #1 and #2 pitchers, too.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Mar 13, 2010 10:13am
I'm a Reds fan also but still think there are A LOT of IF's with this team. The OF is going to be a VERY unproven OF. Bruce can't bat .210 or whatever he ended up with last year. I'm not worried about the infield at all, I think they have good pieces in place there.(Votto,Phillips,Cabrera,Rolen). I have never been sold on Hernadez behind the plate but with all the latino talent we are pulling, it may be smart at this point. Stubbs, Dickerson, Bruce and Gomes are going to be battling for starting spots but they really need to overachieve for this team to be in the playoff hunt.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 13, 2010 10:19am
and I mainly worry all those things must be decided by Dusty Baker
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Nate
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Mar 13, 2010 10:48am
I hope to God that this is his last year in Cincy.Ironman92 wrote: and I mainly worry all those things must be decided by Dusty Baker
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Mar 13, 2010 11:35am
Amen.. I don't want to see that wristband wearing, toothpick chewing, POS anywhere near Cincinnati next year.Keebler wrote:I hope to God that this is his last year in Cincy.Ironman92 wrote: and I mainly worry all those things must be decided by Dusty Baker
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Mar 14, 2010 4:26pm
Sure it's a lot of IFs, but isn't the same kind of IFs from the past like IF Mike Lincoln can morph into a legitimate starter and if Edwin Encarnacion learns the meaning of consistency and if Willy Taveras could actually learn how to hit. I guess the point that I was trying to make is that the Reds really only need a couple of these IFs, which are actually attainable, to pan out for them to have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball. I don't expect all of them to happen, but even if a couple do, then the Reds are in good shape.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Mar 17, 2010 4:55pm
Todays Line:
45 pitches, 29 strikes. 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 5 Ks, HR
45 pitches, 29 strikes. 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 5 Ks, HR
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Mar 17, 2010 4:57pm
That's awesome in my book.5 K's in 3IP is great. I know it's only spring but still nice numbers to put up.osu45804 wrote: Todays Line:
45 pitches, 29 strikes. 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 5 Ks, HR
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Mar 17, 2010 5:36pm
the HR was to the leadoff batter also, so after that it was 3 hitless innings.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Mar 17, 2010 5:37pm
He even faced Braun and Hart. So it's not like it was all chumps he went up against.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Mar 17, 2010 6:11pm
Brewers Doug Davis on Chapman: 'He's going to be one of the greats if he stays healthy." Hart: "nothing was straight, everything moved"
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Mar 17, 2010 7:08pm
some good numbers
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Mar 17, 2010 9:22pm
Ok. I might have to change my initial thought that he "must" go to the minors. (Although I mainly said that it was pointless to anoint him after 1 start) But what he is doing is very impressive.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Mar 17, 2010 11:15pm
He will still go to the minors. Save money and keep him out of the cold for a month or two. I'd like to see him in Carolina for a few starts, then Louisville, then Cincy.
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Nate
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Mar 18, 2010 8:58am
Bring him up after the all-star break.
BCBulldog
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Mar 18, 2010 9:33am
Why? If he can get the big boys out, what good is it for him to waste time in the minors?Keebler wrote: Bring him up after the all-star break.
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big_hits24
Posts: 175
Mar 18, 2010 12:37pm
I don't see a problem with him being in Louisville for the a few weeks or the first month to see how does in AAA. He see how he does in a full 6-7+ innings of work compared to 2-4innings in spring training. How he can do in some situations. After that we will have a better idea of when he's ready to come up to the big club.
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Nate
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Mar 18, 2010 2:38pm
His arm will fall off with Dusty Baker at the helm.BCBulldog wrote:Why? If he can get the big boys out, what good is it for him to waste time in the minors?Keebler wrote: Bring him up after the all-star break.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 18, 2010 4:12pm
It was brought up in the Dayton Daily, with a wrtier from the Enquire since they pushed Hal out last year, that there is speculation by some he will start in the minors because of the whole arbitration clock on his contract.
Of course the GM said that is fubar. Well..didnt say it that way but still..
Impressive so far. He was wild in the WBC. Through his terp he stated that in cuba in the WBC he didnt have film study so he didnt get to see his motion. He noticed some mechanical issues and corrected them and that helped his control.
Of course the GM said that is fubar. Well..didnt say it that way but still..
Impressive so far. He was wild in the WBC. Through his terp he stated that in cuba in the WBC he didnt have film study so he didnt get to see his motion. He noticed some mechanical issues and corrected them and that helped his control.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 18, 2010 11:02pm
Bring him up 2 or so years after they could've
Git rid of all his youth and fresh arm in the minors.....bring him up when his fastball is straight and 93
Git rid of all his youth and fresh arm in the minors.....bring him up when his fastball is straight and 93
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Mar 19, 2010 12:31pm
Normally, I would agree with that statement, but if Chapman can handle the torturous regimen that the Cubans put their pitchers through, I'm sure he can survive Baker's stupidity.Keebler wrote:His arm will fall off with Dusty Baker at the helm.BCBulldog wrote:Why? If he can get the big boys out, what good is it for him to waste time in the minors?Keebler wrote: Bring him up after the all-star break.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 19, 2010 3:13pm
he didnt throw that many innings last year. ALso, ive read they throw every 6 days in cuba.
what ive been reading from the beat writers is that the team is concerend aobut the workload of an entire eason. You can controal that more f you start in the minors
what ive been reading from the beat writers is that the team is concerend aobut the workload of an entire eason. You can controal that more f you start in the minors
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Mar 20, 2010 12:57am
Reds will be on Fox Sports Ohio on Monday and Chapman is scheduled to pitch ....