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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 8, 2010 12:21am
BTW I wasn't glued to the tv all night, but were the Coen Brothers or any of the actors from a Serous Man shown? Just watched it via Netflix, probably the Coens' most arthousey (for lack of better words) works to date. Definitely was a bit out there. I enjoyed it but can see how many people wouldn't.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 8, 2010 12:22am
I recognize your issue SQ, but you were giving the LBJ movie much love as being awesome, yet very few have seen it. Does that mean it ain't shit?SQ_Crazies wrote: A movie isn't shit without people watching it.
just sayin'
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:23am
Titanic did.
When you hit #1, it's a bit different.
When you hit #1, it's a bit different.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Mar 8, 2010 12:23am
Lebron is a joke anyway. Kobe sells more jerseys than his scrub ass.ytownfootball wrote:I recognize your issue SQ, but you were giving the LBJ movie much love as being awesome, yet very few have seen it. Does that mean it ain't shit?SQ_Crazies wrote: A movie isn't shit without people watching it.
just sayin'
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:25am
That wasn't a movie, it's a documentary. Just sayin'.ytownfootball wrote:I recognize your issue SQ, but you were giving the LBJ movie much love as being awesome, yet very few have seen it. Does that mean it ain't shit?SQ_Crazies wrote: A movie isn't shit without people watching it.
just sayin'
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 8, 2010 12:28am
Things being popular does not = things being good.
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Mar 8, 2010 12:29am
While Avatar was good, it was not best picture good. It doesn't go in that realm of movies like Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, Rocky, LOTR, The Departed, and Million Dollar Baby. Making money has nothing to do with the movie being good. Case in point, Pirates of the Caribbean 2, which is 4th all time was not good at all. Star Wars movies each made tons of money but they would certainly never win anything for best picture. Avatar was visually stunning and the effects were incredible. However, the story was not original and has been done numerous other times in movies. I was stunned when it actually was nominated but not stunned at all to see it didn't win.
Will be seeing the Hurt Locker this week I will judge on that then but everyone I know who saw it said it was very good.
Will be seeing the Hurt Locker this week I will judge on that then but everyone I know who saw it said it was very good.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Mar 8, 2010 12:29am
A total of 2 of the top ten grossing movies have ever won best picture
I was looking back at previous winners and I think 1994 may have been the best year ever for best pictures nominees
Forrest Gump
The Shawshank Redemption
Pulp Fiction
Quiz Show
Four Weddings and a Funeral
I was looking back at previous winners and I think 1994 may have been the best year ever for best pictures nominees
Forrest Gump
The Shawshank Redemption
Pulp Fiction
Quiz Show
Four Weddings and a Funeral
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:33am
Except when they're also good.I Wear Pants wrote: Things being popular does not = things being good.
Being popular means it's good to someone, doesn't have to be you.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 8, 2010 12:36am
Yes it was. The point isn't the comparison of a doc. to a film but rather the attendance figures of movie isn't an indication of quality. That point should be clear.SQ_Crazies wrote:That wasn't a movie, it's a documentary. Just sayin'.ytownfootball wrote:I recognize your issue SQ, but you were giving the LBJ movie much love as being awesome, yet very few have seen it. Does that mean it ain't shit?SQ_Crazies wrote: A movie isn't shit without people watching it.
just sayin'
Avatar was entertaining despite the overdone premise.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:43am
You're right, a documentary that was released in like 5 cities is totally on par for a comparison with a worldwide release on a movie that cost 100 times more to make. Pretty fair to compare attendance figures there...
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 8, 2010 12:46am
What do you define the "best picture of the year" as?SQ_Crazies wrote:Except when they're also good.I Wear Pants wrote: Things being popular does not = things being good.
Being popular means it's good to someone, doesn't have to be you.
Because if it's anything but special effects then Avatar wasn't the best picture.
Edit: I guess it could also be ticket sales.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Mar 8, 2010 12:46am
Woah, calm down chief. I understand you're passionate about Avatar because it didn't have many black people in it, but no need to make a bunch of irrational arguments because of it.SQ_Crazies wrote: You're right, a documentary that was released in like 5 cities is totally on par for a comparison with a worldwide release on a movie that cost 100 times more to make. Pretty fair to compare attendance figures there...
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:48am
Everything that surrounds the film. The plot, the acting, the directing, special effects, music, response, success, etc., etc., etc.
You don't have to be the best in every category to average out to be the best overall.
You don't have to be the best in every category to average out to be the best overall.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:49am
Well you just took yoursaelf out of this adult discussion.2kool4skool wrote:Woah, calm down chief. I understand you're passionate about Avatar because it didn't have many black people in it, but no need to make a bunch of irrational arguments because of it.SQ_Crazies wrote: You're right, a documentary that was released in like 5 cities is totally on par for a comparison with a worldwide release on a movie that cost 100 times more to make. Pretty fair to compare attendance figures there...
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 8, 2010 12:50am
I'm not comparing that, I'm saying the quality of a film/doc/short whatever isn't dependent on viewership to ensure it's a "quality" production. I tdoesn't matter how many see it. Likewise, a ton of people seeing something doesn't mean it was good.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:52am
And I agreed with that already, except for when it's not only popular and incredibly successful but also very good.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 8, 2010 12:54am
Why is it that "one persons opinion doesn't mean much" doesn't apply to you?SQ_Crazies wrote: And I agreed with that already, except for when it's not only popular and incredibly successful but also very good.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 12:58am
It does apply to my but my argument is clearly backed up by millions of people. Doesn't the majority rule in this country?
Oh shit...nevermind, I forgot. It doesn't.
Oh shit...nevermind, I forgot. It doesn't.
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Mar 8, 2010 1:01am
Just because a lot of people saw it doesn't mean everyone of those people liked it or thought it was great. It was a good popcorn movie with great effects. The acting was nothing special, nor was the story. You think it was great and you are entitled to that opinion. But don't tell everyone else they are wrong for expressing their opinion of the same film, when it's just that, an opinion.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 8, 2010 1:03am
Is it worth seeing theatre mode or is watching it online like I did sufficient.
SQ_Crazies
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Mar 8, 2010 1:03am
Regardless, when I clicked back in here there were 144 posts and 1144 views. Crazy.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 8, 2010 1:03am
If the majority ruled Al Gore would have been POTUS.SQ_Crazies wrote: It does apply to my but my argument is clearly backed up by millions of people. Doesn't the majority rule in this country?
Oh shit...nevermind, I forgot. It doesn't.
Millions of people like/love McDonald's. Is it the best food or even a good food?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Mar 8, 2010 1:08am
LOL, seriously?
My grandpa snores louder than anyone I've ever heard, so does that mean he'd win the World Snoring Championship?
That makes as much sense as some of the shit you're coming up with.
My grandpa snores louder than anyone I've ever heard, so does that mean he'd win the World Snoring Championship?
That makes as much sense as some of the shit you're coming up with.
ohiotiger33
Posts: 1,500
Mar 8, 2010 1:12am
Avatar was very average. I actually fell asleep during the boring middle part. I am glad it didn't win. There was not an ounce of originality in the plot whatsoever. It deserved to win all the visual effects awards for sure.
But the storyline was way too basic to the point that it actually made me mad. Plus I can't stand a movie that tries to drive political messages so hard, like Avatar did. I hopefully will never see that movie again.
But the storyline was way too basic to the point that it actually made me mad. Plus I can't stand a movie that tries to drive political messages so hard, like Avatar did. I hopefully will never see that movie again.