SQ_Crazies wrote: Ok, then I believe that Heaven is a bunch of dime chicks coupled with unlimited 40 oz. Budweisers and blunts of the best weed ever created. I mean, if God loves me then that is what Heaven should be right?
The way you make an effort is by trying. Isn't that how everyone makes an effort?SQ_Crazies wrote: You're missing it. If sinning ISN'T A CHOICE that means it's going to happen no matter what you do about it, so how do you even make an effort to avoid it?
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SQ, it's Wednesday, most churches have a Bible Study happening tonight. Take a chance and attend one and take the opportunity to ask the above question.SQ_Crazies wrote: You're missing it. If sinning ISN'T A CHOICE that means it's going to happen no matter what you do about it, so how do you even make an effort to avoid it?
And my parents gave me life, should I worship them as my God?
Free will is inherent in every creature with a brain, not something that is given--though it can be taken away, and not by God.
And eternal peace is self achieved and can be done in any number of different ways. Peace has a different definition to a lot of people.
Well first of all, talking about people rising from the dead isn't going to get real far with me...lol, sounds like a good movie plot.Series62 wrote: In following the commandments of the Bible with Jesus as Lord and Savior, Christians strive to live free of sin, where we fall short, we have an advocate in Heaven, that is Jesus.
On our day of judgment, the forgiveness that the Lord has for us was atoned for during His sacrificial death on the cross. But you have to believe, you have to accept his death on the cross as He died for our sins. For three days He lay in the grave and on the third day He did rise!
To see Heaven, you must accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. There is no other way!
And SQ, your life on earth is not Heaven, nor are the "dime chicks, 40oz buds and the weed".
True peace is found in Jesus Christ!Con_Alma wrote:
I agree that eternal peace is self-achieved. It's achieved by the choice of accepting Jesus Christ.
This is true, especially for those who don't know the Lord! And the world is showing you their condition.Con_Alma wrote: I also agree that Peace has a different definition to a lot of people as does how to achieve it. I can only speak to my own definitions and ways towards it.
How can you say it can't be achieved otherwise? Especially if you can only speak to your own definitions?I agree that eternal peace is self-achieved. It's achieved by the choice of accepting Jesus Christ.
I also agree that Peace has a different definition to a lot of people as does how to achieve it. I can only speak to my own definitions and ways towards it.
SQ_Crazies wrote: So if you believe that The Communist Manifesto has a good message, could you consider it a bible and accept Karl Marx as your lord and savior and live by his word?
It seems none of God's way of salvation has gotten real far with you.SQ_Crazies wrote:Well first of all, talking about people rising from the dead isn't going to get real far with me...lol, sounds like a good movie plot.Series62 wrote: In following the commandments of the Bible with Jesus as Lord and Savior, Christians strive to live free of sin, where we fall short, we have an advocate in Heaven, that is Jesus.
On our day of judgment, the forgiveness that the Lord has for us was atoned for during His sacrificial death on the cross. But you have to believe, you have to accept his death on the cross as He died for our sins. For three days He lay in the grave and on the third day He did rise!
To see Heaven, you must accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. There is no other way!
And SQ, your life on earth is not Heaven, nor are the "dime chicks, 40oz buds and the weed".
And why? Why must I accept Jesus as my lord and savior? What did he save me from? And why isn't life Heaven, or my scenario? Have you seen Heaven?
I've never read that book and do not intend to.SQ_Crazies wrote: I also would really like someone to answer this, because I believe it got skipped over:
SQ_Crazies wrote: So if you believe that The Communist Manifesto has a good message, could you consider it a bible and accept Karl Marx as your lord and savior and live by his word?
LOL!Series62 wrote:I've never read that book and do not intend to.SQ_Crazies wrote: I also would really like someone to answer this, because I believe it got skipped over:
SQ_Crazies wrote: So if you believe that The Communist Manifesto has a good message, could you consider it a bible and accept Karl Marx as your lord and savior and live by his word?
Karl Marx was a man, not a god, and he's dead.
His book is not the bible, nor can it could be considered to be one.
It does not work (see fall of communism).
That's why it got skipped over.
Is this the best you can do?SQ_Crazies wrote: If they told you the sky was falling at your church and you had to build a 1,000 foot tower in your backyard to help hold it up, how long would it take you to order the block?
I've not ridiculed anyone. Everything that I've said can be substantiated with the Bible.SQ_Crazies wrote: All you've done since I came into the thread is ridicule.
That was a serious question, because you clearly don't question anything that comes from someone spreading God's word.
Liiiiiiike....science?!And if someone tells me something that cannot be found in the Bible and proven by it, yes, I will question it.
I mean besides medicinal purposes...It's a natural herb that your precious god put on this earth, so I mean using that logic god was a stonerSeries62 wrote: I've not read anything in the Bible that speaks about "pot" in particular. However, anything that defiles your body is sinful! What real benefit do you derive from smoking pot?
Personally? Release, relaxation, enjoyment, experiences I wouldn't otherwise have, having a good time with friends, making everything more fun, making life less stressful.Series62 wrote: I've not read anything in the Bible that speaks about "pot" in particular. However, anything that defiles your body is sinful! What real benefit do you derive from smoking pot?
When you consider the many elements, chemicals, forces of nature, natural structures, biology, etc, etc, you have to realize that God is an excellent scientist, engineer, doctor, etc. He is after all our Creator.SQ_Crazies wrote:Liiiiiiike....science?!And if someone tells me something that cannot be found in the Bible and proven by it, yes, I will question it.
That is just a ridiculous statementSeries62 wrote:When you consider the many elements, chemicals, forces of nature, natural structures, biology, etc, etc, you have to realize that God is an excellent scientist, engineer, doctor, etc. He is after all our Creator.SQ_Crazies wrote:Liiiiiiike....science?!And if someone tells me something that cannot be found in the Bible and proven by it, yes, I will question it.
All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3
I don't smoke or drink, I'm not stressed out, I can relax and have a good time with friends without drink or drugs. My peace and relaxation comes from my relationship with God. It's not to say that I don't have difficulties of life, stressful moments, etc. My release however comes through prayer and meditation on His word because I know that He "abides" (there's that word again) with me.SQ_Crazies wrote:Personally? Release, relaxation, enjoyment, experiences I wouldn't otherwise have, having a good time with friends, making everything more fun, making life less stressful.Series62 wrote: I've not read anything in the Bible that speaks about "pot" in particular. However, anything that defiles your body is sinful! What real benefit do you derive from smoking pot?
For others, it has MANY proven medical benefits, doctors advise it.
I just wanted to say that if God is the Creator, then he created pot and man's desire to alter their minds (mankind has been finding ways to do this for thousands and thousands of years, it isn't a new concept), so there is no way that can be a sin, right? What kind of God would make that a sin?
And walking defiles your body, is that sinful? Breathing defiles your body. Jacking your heart rate up to work out defiles your body. Sins?
