Hardcore 12 year old female criminal arrested in NY.

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Feb 18, 2010 8:37 PM
This is so stupid. I'm convinced that, besides politicians, school administrators have the least amount of common sense in this country. What kind of stupid does an adult have to be to think arresting a 12 year old girl for writing on a freaking desk is a good idea? I smell a huge lawsuit, and I hope the girl's family takes NYC to the cleaners.

When will this country wake up to the failures of "zero tolerance" policies and demand change?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/18/new.york.doodle.arrest/index.html
Feb 18, 2010 8:37pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:40 PM
Here's the lesson: don't write on the friggin' desk! I'm so sick of everyone worried about kid's little feelings. Did they go overboard? Of course, but, how do we know if that girl hasn't been in trouble 100 times or something? Just another case of media hype. In the end, don't write on the dang desk. In the real world, if she'd have painted that on an overpass and got caught, she would have went to jail, so there ya go. Sorry, I'm being an a-hole.
Feb 18, 2010 8:40pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:45 PM
stupid stupid stupid shit
Feb 18, 2010 8:45pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:54 PM
visionquest wrote: Here's the lesson: don't write on the friggin' desk! I'm so sick of everyone worried about kid's little feelings. Did they go overboard? Of course, but, how do we know if that girl hasn't been in trouble 100 times or something? Just another case of media hype. In the end, don't write on the dang desk. In the real world, if she'd have painted that on an overpass and got caught, she would have went to jail, so there ya go. Sorry, I'm being an a-hole.
Or, if she had destroyed something at her job,,,,,, FIRED?

Companies dont care about our feelings. It's the real world, might as well learn it now.
Feb 18, 2010 8:54pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:57 PM
coyotes22 wrote:
visionquest wrote: Here's the lesson: don't write on the friggin' desk! I'm so sick of everyone worried about kid's little feelings. Did they go overboard? Of course, but, how do we know if that girl hasn't been in trouble 100 times or something? Just another case of media hype. In the end, don't write on the dang desk. In the real world, if she'd have painted that on an overpass and got caught, she would have went to jail, so there ya go. Sorry, I'm being an a-hole.
Or, if she had destroyed something at her job,,,,,, FIRED?

Companies dont care about our feelings. I'st the real world, might as well learn it now.
That's right, teach the little shits a lesson they'll never forget. I say we go for public flogging. Late for school? Write on a desk? Didn't do homework? Whip their asses in front of the other children, that'll teach them that the real world is fucking hardcore and you better walk on the straight and narrow. Fuck compassion.
Feb 18, 2010 8:57pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:57 PM
Critics say schools and police have gone too far, overreacting and using well-intended rules for incidents involving nonviolent offenses such as drawing on desks, writing on other school property or talking back to teachers.
WHAT?!?!?!

So, kids should be allowed to do those things and not face punishment?

What HAS this world come to? That would merit an ass beating at my house!!
Feb 18, 2010 8:57pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:58 PM
coyotes22 wrote:
Critics say schools and police have gone too far, overreacting and using well-intended rules for incidents involving nonviolent offenses such as drawing on desks, writing on other school property or talking back to teachers.
WHAT?!?!?!

So, kids should be allowed to do those things and not face punishment?

What HAS this world come to? That would merit an ass beating at my house!!
You give them detention, not a criminal record. Jesus.
Feb 18, 2010 8:58pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:59 PM
Dumb as hell. She is 12 and wrote on a desk. Make her pay for a new one and suspend her. But calling the police? That principal is a douche. I agree with CC, bring paddling back. But the liberal wackos are too afraid of it.
Feb 18, 2010 8:59pm
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Feb 18, 2010 9:00 PM
Ah, The Huddle. Where there's no such thing as "Middle Ground".
Feb 18, 2010 9:00pm
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Feb 18, 2010 9:01 PM
tk421 wrote:

That's right, teach the little shits a lesson they'll never forget. I say we go for public flogging. Late for school? Write on a desk? Didn't do homework? Whip their asses in front of the other children, that'll teach them that the real world is fucking hardcore and you better walk on the straight and narrow. Fuck compassion.
Thats the problem with kids today. They dont have enough punishment, b/c we MAY hurt their little FEELINGS!!! Screw that. Maybe kids would be more respectful of each other and elders, if there was more punishment. Instead we use timeouts and send them to their rooms. What does that teach? If I do wrong, I get to go play with my toys in my room.

Not in my house, you break rules or disrespect, you get your ass smacked. Thats how I was raised. Thats how my kids will be raised.
Feb 18, 2010 9:01pm
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Feb 18, 2010 9:11 PM
tk421 wrote: You give them detention, not a criminal record. Jesus.
ooooohhhh detention, i am shaking in my boots.
Feb 18, 2010 9:11pm
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Feb 18, 2010 9:16 PM
Glory Days wrote:
tk421 wrote: You give them detention, not a criminal record. Jesus.
ooooohhhh detention, i am shaking in my boots.
Yeah, because arresting them at 12 is going to instill respect. Please. All it's going to do is make a lot of teenagers with even more hate.
Feb 18, 2010 9:16pm
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Feb 18, 2010 10:18 PM
tk421 wrote:
Glory Days wrote:
tk421 wrote: You give them detention, not a criminal record. Jesus.
ooooohhhh detention, i am shaking in my boots.
Yeah, because arresting them at 12 is going to instill respect. Please. All it's going to do is make a lot of teenagers with even more hate.
yeah, like detention is going to instill discipline or respect.
Feb 18, 2010 10:18pm
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Feb 18, 2010 10:22 PM
I know I hinted at this earlier, but I feel like there's some meeting in the middle between detention....and arrest. I mean, there are definitely some things in between those two levels of punishment, unless times have changed that much.
Feb 18, 2010 10:22pm
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Feb 18, 2010 10:23 PM
Glory Days wrote:
tk421 wrote:
Glory Days wrote:
tk421 wrote: You give them detention, not a criminal record. Jesus.
ooooohhhh detention, i am shaking in my boots.
Yeah, because arresting them at 12 is going to instill respect. Please. All it's going to do is make a lot of teenagers with even more hate.
yeah, like detention is going to instill discipline or respect.
Nothing the school could do will instill any discipline or respect. That's from the families. If the parents don't give a rat's ass, the kids aren't either.
Feb 18, 2010 10:23pm
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Feb 18, 2010 10:47 PM
The issue is that schools have become spineless to discipline the kids because of fear of backlash from the parents. And mostly, because what the school can do is only idle threats that aren't taken seriously by the students.

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Feb 18, 2010 10:47pm
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Feb 18, 2010 10:52 PM
seems like some of the posters here are dumber than the teachers and administrators arresting a 12 year old for writing on the desk.

im pretty sure a suitable punishment would involve cleaning the desks for the room or for the wing of the school. not arresting, not handcuffing, not beating, not whipping. some of you shouldnt be allowed around children
Feb 18, 2010 10:52pm
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Feb 19, 2010 9:36 AM
^^^^

this.
Feb 19, 2010 9:36am
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Feb 19, 2010 9:38 AM
If you DO THE CRIME, you better be prepared to DO THE TIME.

Or something like that.
Feb 19, 2010 9:38am
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Feb 19, 2010 9:42 AM
gorocks99 wrote: If you DO THE CRIME, you better be prepared to DO THE TIME.

Or something like that.
Which in this case the time should be a detention or like, skipping recess to clean desks.
Feb 19, 2010 9:42am
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Feb 19, 2010 9:43 AM
I Wear Pants wrote:
gorocks99 wrote: If you DO THE CRIME, you better be prepared to DO THE TIME.

Or something like that.
Which in this case the time should be a detention or like, skipping recess to clean desks.
Nah, hard time. She ain't nothin but a thug.
Feb 19, 2010 9:43am
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Feb 19, 2010 9:47 AM
Apparently many Huddlers forgot that they were once kids. :rolleyes:
Feb 19, 2010 9:47am
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Feb 19, 2010 10:11 AM
Schools are limited to detentions, in school suspensions, saturday school and out of school suspensions. I have watched parents come in and throw fits over the cleaning idea! lol I worked lunch duty at a middle school for my first 6 years of teaching, and if they accidently spilled something they could have the janitor clean it, however if they were throwing food or whatever I made them clean it with a broom or washrag. I had a parent come after me the next day after I had little Johnny clean up some peas he had thrown. The parents complained that the washrag was soaked in a cleaning solution and would hurt little Johnnies skin! The principal tried to calm them down, but they went over his head to the Super who also supported me, but after a trip to the board no one had to clean up after themselves.

This principal went over board IMO, but schools are handcuffed in what punishments they can give.
Feb 19, 2010 10:11am
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Feb 19, 2010 5:14 PM
keep these Mo Fo's off the street.
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