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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:09pm
Pretty sure this falls under domestic terrorism.Laley23 wrote: lol, what a psycho!
Glad it wasnt terrorist related..... :S
He sure as hell didn't like the way the United States operates.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 18, 2010 2:10pm
I know, thus my "confused smiley" relating to the early reports that it wasnt terrorism related.devil1197 wrote:Pretty sure this falls under domestic terrorism.Laley23 wrote: lol, what a psycho!
Glad it wasnt terrorist related..... :S
He sure as hell didn't like the way the United States operates.
This is definitely an act of terror.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 2:12pm
I guess it depends on your definition. When a disgruntled ex-employee "goes postal" and shoots a bunch of people, is it terrorism? Not IMO. This is only different in the choice of weapon.Upper90 wrote: Well, would this not be an act of terror?
And yeah, reading that manifesto was a bit intense.
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capninsano
Posts: 411
Feb 18, 2010 2:14pm
He seems like a smart guy, and I generally agree with him, but it's a shame he thought that this was the answer.
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 18, 2010 2:35pm
I agree with the majority of points this man makes. But there's one glaring inaccuracy. Violence is not the answer.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 18, 2010 2:45pm
that was quite a read
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:49pm
I don't think this guys situation is anything like a disgruntled ex employee.queencitybuckeye wrote:I guess it depends on your definition. When a disgruntled ex-employee "goes postal" and shoots a bunch of people, is it terrorism? Not IMO. This is only different in the choice of weapon.Upper90 wrote: Well, would this not be an act of terror?
And yeah, reading that manifesto was a bit intense.
This guy definitely had some major issues with the United States government and this was he way with dealing with it.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Feb 18, 2010 2:53pm
Cory Lidle=terrorist?ccrunner609 wrote: plane crash into building = terrorist.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 2:55pm
I think we'll find out in due course that his issue stemed from getting caught cheating on his taxes. He comes across to me as one of those tax protester wackos.devil1197 wrote: This guy definitely had some major issues with the United States government and this was he way with dealing with it.
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 18, 2010 3:01pm
We know the government would never do anyone wrong, so that's a safe assumption....
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Society
Posts: 1,146
Feb 18, 2010 3:03pm
queencitybuckeye wrote: I think we'll find out in due course that his issue stemed from getting caught cheating on his taxes. He comes across to me as one of those tax protester wackos.
I was having the same thought. Do you expect the government to come out and admit that they screwed this guy over and drove him to do what he did?Strapping Young Lad wrote: We know the government would never do anyone wrong, so that's a safe assumption....
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 18, 2010 3:06pm
That is fucked up that I too agree with A LOT of what he said. But come on man...NOT the way to go about it...
I suppose he got everyone to listen.
I suppose he got everyone to listen.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 3:08pm
Do you have any reason to believe the government screwed this fruit loop, other than wanting to believe it?Strapping Young Lad wrote: We know the government would never do anyone wrong, so that's a safe assumption....
UA5straightin2008
Posts: 3,246
Feb 18, 2010 3:14pm
just sad he couldnt get help or that his family never realized there was a problem
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 18, 2010 3:16pm
Yes. Organizations, especially the Federal Government, have been screwing people for years. If you don't think so, you're very lucky.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 3:20pm
What happens more often - someone cheats on their taxes and gets caught, or someone gets blatently screwed by the IRS (note: this is rhetorical unless one is a member of the tinfoil brigade)?Strapping Young Lad wrote: Yes. Organizations, especially the Federal Government, have been screwing people for years. If you don't think so, you're very lucky.
By your logic, people should spend all of their earnings on the lottery. After all, someone does win.
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 18, 2010 3:23pm
What the hell are you talking about????
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Feb 18, 2010 3:24pm
Waiting for him to be labeled a right wing extremist/teabagger.....probably a 'birther' too...owns lots of guns.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 3:26pm
I'm talking about people choosing the believe the less likely over the more likely tending to be the black helicopter types.Strapping Young Lad wrote: What the hell are you talking about????
The most likely scenario is that he was a nutburger and a tax cheat. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 18, 2010 3:28pm
Okay. I don't know what a black-helicopter type is but whatever......
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 3:33pm
Black helicopter types are those who see conspiracies, government conspiracies in particular around every corner.
It is possible that the IRS screwed this guy? Yes.
Is it FAR more likely that he's a wacko and a cheat? Yes.
It is possible that the IRS screwed this guy? Yes.
Is it FAR more likely that he's a wacko and a cheat? Yes.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Feb 18, 2010 3:55pm
and so have non government organizations.Strapping Young Lad wrote: Yes. Organizations, especially the Federal Government, have been screwing people for years. If you don't think so, you're very lucky.
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 18, 2010 3:59pm
It wouldn't suprise me if this guy cheated on his taxes. But it sure as hell would not suprise if The Man fucked this guy around one too many times.queencitybuckeye wrote: Black helicopter types are those who see conspiracies, government conspiracies in particular around every corner.
It is possible that the IRS screwed this guy? Yes.
Is it FAR more likely that he's a wacko and a cheat? Yes.
Powerful organizations screw people over everyday and it's a very helpless feeling for those people.
When I see something like this I give the benefit of the doubt to the little guy. You give the benefit of the doubt to the establishment.
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balk14
Posts: 129
Feb 18, 2010 7:55pm
i actually drove past this building about 45 minutes after the crash...it was the craziest thing ive ever seen..FAA, TSA, FBI all over the place - with the size of the hole in the building and the way stuff looked i cant believe that this didnt do more damage
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tk421
Posts: 8,500
Feb 18, 2010 8:00pm
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. The IRS has to be the most hated government agency.