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bigmanbt

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Feb 10, 2010 3:54 PM
^^^^^ Yes he will. Too bad Fox News seems to have a grudge against him.

I disagree though that Obama is dumb, I actually think he is very smart, just misguided. He would absolutely DESTROY Palin in any debate. They talk about Palin cause she is a joke, plain and simple.
Feb 10, 2010 3:54pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:02 PM
Back to the point of this thread Chris Matthews is an idiot and a hypocrite...but most leftist are.
Feb 10, 2010 4:02pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:02 PM
bigmanbt wrote: ^^^^^ Yes he will. Too bad Fox News seems to have a grudge against him.

I disagree though that Obama is dumb, I actually think he is very smart, just misguided. He would absolutely DESTROY Palin in any debate. They talk about Palin cause she is a joke, plain and simple.
The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
Feb 10, 2010 4:02pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:10 PM
Palin is capable of doing far less damage than Obama, which is a big plus in my estimation.

Obama is very smart, yet a fool.
Palin is far less knowledgeable, but with a lot of common sense.
Feb 10, 2010 4:10pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:12 PM
2quik4u wrote: The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
He was on fox yesterday on Cavuto's program.

Feb 10, 2010 4:12pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:16 PM
majorspark wrote:
2quik4u wrote: The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
He was on fox yesterday on Cavuto's program.

Fox business big difference there
Feb 10, 2010 4:16pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:29 PM
2quik4u wrote:
majorspark wrote:
2quik4u wrote: The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
He was on fox yesterday on Cavuto's program.

Fox business big difference there
No its still FOX. Cavuto's program runs an hour on the Fox news channel. Just like Hannity and Beck. In fact Beck is on right after him.

Maybe you are implying certain programs on Fox.
Feb 10, 2010 4:29pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:45 PM
majorspark wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
majorspark wrote:
2quik4u wrote: The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
He was on fox yesterday on Cavuto's program.

Fox business big difference there
No its still FOX. Cavuto's program runs an hour on the Fox news channel. Just like Hannity and Beck. In fact Beck is on right after him.

Maybe you are implying certain programs on Fox.
Its still Fox but it was on Fox business and everyone doesn't have that. Now I know he has been on Fox before but its not even close when compared to how many times he has been on MSNBC.
Feb 10, 2010 4:45pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:48 PM
bigmanbt wrote: I disagree though that Obama is dumb, I actually think he is very smart, just misguided. He would absolutely DESTROY Palin in any debate. They talk about Palin cause she is a joke, plain and simple.
Largely agree with this assessment...but I do think Palin is a lot smarter than most people originally thought.

Someday, a woman will be elected president....but it won't be Sarah Palin.
Feb 10, 2010 4:48pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:53 PM
2quik4u wrote:
The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
That's because Rupert Murdoch is a huge neocon. Being a neocon is almost a pre-requisite for being on Fox News.

I mean look at the old Hannity-Colmes cherade. Colmes was a joke. It was all a set up to make all liberals look like idiots. It was the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Wahington Generals--only in the political arena.
Feb 10, 2010 4:53pm
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Feb 10, 2010 4:57 PM
Footwedge wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
That's because Rupert Murdoch is a huge neocon. Being a neocon is almost a pre-requisite for being on Fox News.

I mean look at the old Hannity-Colmes cherade. Colmes was a joke. It was all a set up to make all liberals look like idiots. It was the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Wahington Generals--only in the political arena.
Roger Ailes calls all the shots for Fox News
Feb 10, 2010 4:57pm
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Feb 10, 2010 5:13 PM
Footwedge wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
That's because Rupert Murdoch is a huge neocon. Being a neocon is almost a pre-requisite for being on Fox News.

I mean look at the old Hannity-Colmes cherade. Colmes was a joke. It was all a set up to make all liberals look like idiots. It was the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Wahington Generals--only in the political arena.
Which was a shame, as Alan Colmes is pretty cool. He's one of the few lib talking heads that can make a rational point without foaming at the mouth.
Feb 10, 2010 5:13pm
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Feb 10, 2010 5:33 PM
gibby08 wrote: ^^^

Oh yea....A women who graduated from Idaho is as smart or smarter than a man who graduated from Harvard and Columbia

Oh the irony of it all. The left called Bush dumb, yet he holds degrees from Yale and Harvard.

Now it is proof that Obama is dumb as..........

Gibby is so easy.
Feb 10, 2010 5:33pm
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Feb 10, 2010 5:39 PM
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gibby08 wrote: ^^^

Oh yea....A women who graduated from Idaho is as smart or smarter than a man who graduated from Harvard and Columbia

Oh the irony of it all. The left called Bush dumb, yet he holds degrees from Yale and Harvard.

Now it is proof that Obama is dumb as..........

Gibby is so easy.
but but but his daddy got him in Yale
Feb 10, 2010 5:39pm
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Feb 10, 2010 5:40 PM
It's quite obvious that Matthews is nothing less than a BHO shill... he so much as says it in the op link.

But he is correct about charisma being harmful. The thing is, no one is going to get elected if they have no charisma.

2012 will be avery interesting election. No democrat will have the balls to run against BHO in the primaries. With the nomination locked up, I could see hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of dem voters crossing sides in the primaries for the sole purpose of getting Palin nominated.

If Palin truly wants to do what's best for the country, she will stay on the sidelines in 2012 and let BHO lose.
Feb 10, 2010 5:40pm
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Feb 10, 2010 5:45 PM
bigmanbt wrote: ^^^^^ Yes he will. Too bad Fox News seems to have a grudge against him.

I disagree though that Obama is dumb, I actually think he is very smart, just misguided. He would absolutely DESTROY Palin in any debate. They talk about Palin cause she is a joke, plain and simple.
The same was said about her debate with O'Biden. I must have missed the part where she got destroyed there.
Feb 10, 2010 5:45pm
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Feb 10, 2010 5:46 PM
2quik4u wrote:
Mr. 300 wrote:
gibby08 wrote: ^^^

Oh yea....A women who graduated from Idaho is as smart or smarter than a man who graduated from Harvard and Columbia

Oh the irony of it all. The left called Bush dumb, yet he holds degrees from Yale and Harvard.

Now it is proof that Obama is dumb as..........

Gibby is so easy.
but but but his daddy got him in Yale
:):):D:D
Feb 10, 2010 5:46pm
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Feb 10, 2010 6:00 PM
2quik4u wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
That's because Rupert Murdoch is a huge neocon. Being a neocon is almost a pre-requisite for being on Fox News.

I mean look at the old Hannity-Colmes cherade. Colmes was a joke. It was all a set up to make all liberals look like idiots. It was the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Wahington Generals--only in the political arena.
Roger Ailes calls all the shots for Fox News
Not really. Ailes has his head so far up Murdoch's ass that he wears his shoulderblades as a sombrero.

Anyhow....Murdoch/Ailes....both pro expansionary wars, nation building, interventionalists, and fear mongering.
Feb 10, 2010 6:00pm
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Feb 10, 2010 7:50 PM
Matthews is a big government hack. Frankly, he's a joke that isn't worthy discussion.

As for Obama and Palin, their track records speak for themselves. I wouldn't vote for either of them.
Feb 10, 2010 7:50pm
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Feb 10, 2010 11:26 PM
2quik4u wrote: If Palin became president we would become the laughing stock of the world and no one would respect us.
So no different than when Obama was elected?
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bases_loaded wrote:
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jmog wrote: Funny though that Palin's "dumb as f*#k" but Obama gets a free pass on "visiting 57 states".
kinda like Palin didn't know Africa was a continent
Untrue...but Im sure your ACORN buddies told you that...Obama voters are dumb as F@*K
Hey buddy i'm a conservative, but if you really think Sarah Palin would be able to turn this country around you are sadly mistaken.
I agree. She couldn't even finish her term as governor, how could she handle running a country?

2quik4u wrote:
bigmanbt wrote: ^^^^^ Yes he will. Too bad Fox News seems to have a grudge against him.

I disagree though that Obama is dumb, I actually think he is very smart, just misguided. He would absolutely DESTROY Palin in any debate. They talk about Palin cause she is a joke, plain and simple.
The only one that doesn't is Beck. I know Hannity hates him because Dr. Paul is a threat to his neo-con ideology. I do find it kinda funny that the most conservative man in Congress can't get on Fox but he is on the most liberal station MSNBC, all the time.
Dr. Paul is smarter than every single one of those hosts and when he counters any shitty point they try to make, they just try to shut him up by not letting him finish his thoughts (a la O'Reilly and Hannity).
Apple wrote:

If Palin truly wants to do what's best for the country, she will stay on the sidelines in 2012 and let BHO lose.
100% agree with you.
Feb 10, 2010 11:26pm
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Feb 10, 2010 11:40 PM
If Palin runs, I do not know what I will do when it comes time to vote. I would never vote for Obama but Palin would be a travesty.

The Republican party needs to get away from trying to be like "normal people." I want someone to run who is exceptional, smarter and better than most people yet humble about it. I want someone who actually acts on their ideas and believes in what they are saying. I don't care about being able to have a drink with the president, I want to respect the president. I want a President who will stand up against both parties and do what's best for the American People.

If Obama is re-elected or Palin wins, America is doomed in my opinion.
Feb 10, 2010 11:40pm
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Feb 10, 2010 11:53 PM
pmoney25 wrote: If Palin runs, I do not know what I will do when it comes time to vote. I would never vote for Obama but Palin would be a travesty.

The Republican party needs to get away from trying to be like "normal people." I want someone to run who is exceptional, smarter and better than most people yet humble about it. I want someone who actually acts on their ideas and believes in what they are saying. I don't care about being able to have a drink with the president, I want to respect the president. I want a President who will stand up against both parties and do what's best for the American People.

If Obama is re-elected or Palin wins, America is doomed in my opinion.
You just described Dr. Ron Paul. The Republican Party has shunned him when they should be embracing him and his ideas.
Feb 10, 2010 11:53pm
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Feb 10, 2010 11:59 PM
dwccrew wrote:
pmoney25 wrote: If Palin runs, I do not know what I will do when it comes time to vote. I would never vote for Obama but Palin would be a travesty.

The Republican party needs to get away from trying to be like "normal people." I want someone to run who is exceptional, smarter and better than most people yet humble about it. I want someone who actually acts on their ideas and believes in what they are saying. I don't care about being able to have a drink with the president, I want to respect the president. I want a President who will stand up against both parties and do what's best for the American People.

If Obama is re-elected or Palin wins, America is doomed in my opinion.
You just described Dr. Ron Paul. The Republican Party has shunned him when they should be embracing him and his ideas.
Yea I know, I have been a huge fan of Dr. Paul for awhile now but unfortunately the party has as you said shunned him and cast him off as a loon. Until Americans actually care about performance over personality and actual ideas over talking points, we are going to keep making the same mistakes.
Feb 10, 2010 11:59pm
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Feb 11, 2010 12:00 AM
Mr. 300 wrote:
gibby08 wrote: ^^^

Oh yea....A women who graduated from Idaho is as smart or smarter than a man who graduated from Harvard and Columbia

Oh the irony of it all. The left called Bush dumb, yet he holds degrees from Yale and Harvard.

Now it is proof that Obama is dumb as..........

Gibby is so easy.
I for one never ever called President Bush dumb. He's a highly intelligent man that didn't always show it.
Feb 11, 2010 12:00am
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Feb 11, 2010 12:03 AM
dwccrew wrote:
pmoney25 wrote: If Palin runs, I do not know what I will do when it comes time to vote. I would never vote for Obama but Palin would be a travesty.

The Republican party needs to get away from trying to be like "normal people." I want someone to run who is exceptional, smarter and better than most people yet humble about it. I want someone who actually acts on their ideas and believes in what they are saying. I don't care about being able to have a drink with the president, I want to respect the president. I want a President who will stand up against both parties and do what's best for the American People.

If Obama is re-elected or Palin wins, America is doomed in my opinion.
You just described Dr. Ron Paul. The Republican Party has shunned him when they should be embracing him and his ideas.
100% agree
Feb 11, 2010 12:03am