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Scarlet_Buckeye

Posts: 5,264

Feb 8, 2010 12:20pm

Who are your top three automakers and your bottom three automakers.

For instance, before their recall, Toyota would probably have been lumped in with GM and maybe Ford as the top three automakers in the world, right?

Well... who are the bottom three (and who would you now consider to be the top three)?

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Feb 8, 2010 12:23pm

1. Ford
2. GM
3. Chrysler

Bottom
Everyone else.

Scarlet_Buckeye

Posts: 5,264

Feb 8, 2010 12:24pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: 1. Ford
2. GM
3. Chrysler

Bottom
Everyone else.

Zwick can you please help me out... I really am more interested in who your "bottom three" are. Thanks

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Feb 8, 2010 12:31pm

Scarlet_Buckeye wrote:
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: 1. Ford
2. GM
3. Chrysler

Bottom
Everyone else.
Zwick can you please help me out... I really am more interested in who your "bottom three" are. Thanks

Sure, I apologize.

Bottom (1 being the worst)
1. Mitsubishi
2. Isuzu
3. Suzuki

And in all honesty, I'd put Honda or Toyota above Chrysler.

C

cbus4life

Posts: 2,849

Feb 8, 2010 12:42pm

Top.

Honda
Subaru
Ford

Bottom.
Chrysler
Kia
Suzuki

W

wkfan

Posts: 1,641

Feb 8, 2010 12:50pm

Top:

Honda
Mercedes
BMW

Bottom:

Chrysler
Kia
Suzuki

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Feb 8, 2010 12:55pm

I can see Audi or BMW, but I just can't get with Mercedes. For their prices, they've NEVER impressed me. If I was going for strictly a high end model, it'd be Lexus (Toyota)... their quality assurance practices blow everyone else outta the water, and it's not even really that close.

Scarlet_Buckeye

Posts: 5,264

Feb 8, 2010 12:58pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
Scarlet_Buckeye wrote:
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: 1. Ford
2. GM
3. Chrysler

Bottom
Everyone else.
Zwick can you please help me out... I really am more interested in who your "bottom three" are. Thanks
Sure, I apologize.

Bottom (1 being the worst)
1. Mitsubishi
2. Isuzu
3. Suzuki

And in all honesty, I'd put Honda or Toyota above Chrysler.

Thanks Zwick. Much appreciated. (There's a reason for my madness I can assure you)

C

Con_Alma

Posts: 12,198

Feb 8, 2010 12:58pm

Top
Mercedes
Ferrari
Porsche

Bottom
Suzuki
Kia
????

LJ

Posts: 16,351

Feb 8, 2010 1:00pm

I didn't realize Mitsu was still around?

OneBuckeye

Posts: 5,888

Feb 8, 2010 1:00pm

1. Ford
2. VW
3. Honda

1. Isuzu
2. Suzuki
3. Chrysler

Scarlet_Buckeye

Posts: 5,264

Feb 8, 2010 1:00pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: I can see Audi or BMW, but I just can't get with Mercedes. For their prices, they've NEVER impressed me. If I was going for strictly a high end model, it'd be Lexus (Toyota)... their quality assurance practices blow everyone else outta the water, and it's not even really that close.

What are your thoughts then about their two recent ginormous recalls?

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Feb 8, 2010 1:02pm

Scarlet_Buckeye wrote:
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: I can see Audi or BMW, but I just can't get with Mercedes. For their prices, they've NEVER impressed me. If I was going for strictly a high end model, it'd be Lexus (Toyota)... their quality assurance practices blow everyone else outta the water, and it's not even really that close.
What are your thoughts then about their two recent ginormous recalls?

My thoughts are you won't see any on Lexus' b/c that's their baby. Only on their high production vehicles.

Scarlet_Buckeye

Posts: 5,264

Feb 8, 2010 1:12pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
Scarlet_Buckeye wrote:
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: I can see Audi or BMW, but I just can't get with Mercedes. For their prices, they've NEVER impressed me. If I was going for strictly a high end model, it'd be Lexus (Toyota)... their quality assurance practices blow everyone else outta the water, and it's not even really that close.
What are your thoughts then about their two recent ginormous recalls?
My thoughts are you won't see any on Lexus' b/c that's their baby. Only on their high production vehicles.

I think that's a valid point.

C

cbus4life

Posts: 2,849

Feb 8, 2010 1:16pm

What do you guys think of Subaru?

My family, and now myself, have owned nothing but Subarus for as long as i can remember, and we've never had a problem, incredibly reliable and long-lasting, great service, great company, etc.

But, i don't see them mentioned too much on the "favorite or least favorite" car threads.

My parents have had two Forresters go well above 200,000 miles and still perform wonderfully. My brother just passed the 200,000 mark on his Outback, and it is still in great shape. Etc., etc.

I know they aren't as "big" as other companies, but i think they've got to be as good as anybody out there, at the moment.

gorocks99

Posts: 10,760

Feb 8, 2010 1:18pm

I think a lot of lesbians drive Subarus. Seriously. Not a knock on your fam, but an observation. They seems to be very lesbian-friendly cars for whatever reason.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Feb 8, 2010 1:21pm

gorocks99 wrote: I think a lot of lesbians drive Subarus. Seriously. Not a knock on your fam, but an observation. They seems to be very lesbian-friendly cars for whatever reason.

That just means they like what I like.

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cbus4life

Posts: 2,849

Feb 8, 2010 1:22pm

Fair enough.

C

Con_Alma

Posts: 12,198

Feb 8, 2010 1:23pm

cbus4life wrote: What do you guys think of Subaru?

My family, and now myself, have owned nothing but Subarus for as long as i can remember, and we've never had a problem, incredibly reliable and long-lasting, great service, great company, etc.

But, i don't see them mentioned too much on the "favorite or least favorite" car threads.

My parents have had two Forresters go well above 200,000 miles and still perform wonderfully. My brother just passed the 200,000 mark on his Outback, and it is still in great shape. Etc., etc.

I know they aren't as "big" as other companies, but i think they've got to be as good as anybody out there, at the moment.

I think they have tremendous brand loyalty from their consumers due to very good buyer's experience. Where they fail is in cosmetic styling and marketing.

gorocks99

Posts: 10,760

Feb 8, 2010 1:25pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
gorocks99 wrote: I think a lot of lesbians drive Subarus. Seriously. Not a knock on your fam, but an observation. They seems to be very lesbian-friendly cars for whatever reason.
That just means they like what I like.

The Indigo Girls?

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Feb 8, 2010 1:25pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: And in all honesty, I'd put Honda or Toyota above Chrysler.

AAAAAA HA!

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Feb 8, 2010 1:26pm

ernest_t_bass wrote:
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: And in all honesty, I'd put Honda or Toyota above Chrysler.
AAAAAA HA!

Don't get too excited. Chrysler is the Mitsubishi of America.

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Feb 8, 2010 1:27pm

Top:
Honda
Toyota
VW
(Ford)

Bottom:
Saturn
Kia
Chrysler

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cbus4life

Posts: 2,849

Feb 8, 2010 1:32pm

Con_Alma wrote:
cbus4life wrote: What do you guys think of Subaru?

My family, and now myself, have owned nothing but Subarus for as long as i can remember, and we've never had a problem, incredibly reliable and long-lasting, great service, great company, etc.

But, i don't see them mentioned too much on the "favorite or least favorite" car threads.

My parents have had two Forresters go well above 200,000 miles and still perform wonderfully. My brother just passed the 200,000 mark on his Outback, and it is still in great shape. Etc., etc.

I know they aren't as "big" as other companies, but i think they've got to be as good as anybody out there, at the moment.

I think they have tremendous brand loyalty from their consumers due to very good buyer's experience. Where they fail is in cosmetic styling and marketing.

Yea, i would tend to agree. Though, they did seem to try and upgrade the "cosmetics" with the 2010 models. Not sure if they succeeded, though.

GoChiefs

Posts: 16,754

Feb 8, 2010 3:09pm

Ford
GM
Toyota

Mitsubishi
Chrysler
Hyundai/Kia