LJ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:12pm
I'm sure that's all that Larry said to him. I am sure the management team under Larry and above Kevin chewed his ass out.chicago510 wrote: No way thats all that was said. Thats all that was CBS-friendly
Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
Feb 7, 2010 11:13pm
Good show, but even if it is a hit, I don't see how it'll make it past the first season. Like any worker would be able to see a 'new hire' with a cameraman following him around and not realize it's this show.
Sykoty
Sykoty
chicago510
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Feb 7, 2010 11:14pm
Can't wait for the Hooters one for many reasons.
Glory Days
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Feb 7, 2010 11:14pm
its tough to say though, we dont hear everything that was said between them. sometimes the way the show is edited makes it seem one way during a 3 minute clip that might have last 10-15 minutes in reality.LJ wrote:It's not so much that, he was just talking to him like he was an employee under him, not trying to explain why she was so overworked. He just talked to him so "this is just how it is". That would get you reprimanded with the quickness with me.Red_Skin_Pride wrote:No crap! If I was the prez, i'da been like bow down bitch!LJ wrote: Not sure I have ever noticed WM porta pots...
It also kinda ticked me off to see the regional manager giving the company President responses like he was giving.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Feb 7, 2010 11:14pm
I'm more surprised that people don't know their CEO's face.
LJ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:15pm
Just saw the Hooters preview. I think the Reindeer Games douche gets fired on the show, he almost has to be to save face for the company. People already complain about Hooters objectifying women, but something like that without him getting fired on the spot would be an absolute PR disaster.
chicago510
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Feb 7, 2010 11:16pm
You're right, concealing the executives identity isn't that hard no entry-level worker knows the corporate executives unless we're talking Apple or Microsoft, but explaining the cameras is tricky.Sykotyk wrote: Good show, but even if it is a hit, I don't see how it'll make it past the first season. Like any worker would be able to see a 'new hire' with a cameraman following him around and not realize it's this show.
Sykoty
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Feb 7, 2010 11:17pm
I was in a meeting where a project team I was on got it pretty hard. I was just an associate accountant and the Director of DFAS at the time, Zack Gaddy came in and gave us a nice professional stern talking to. After he left the room, the site management came in and absolutely went off on us. Even if he did talk to him more, I can say with 100% certainty that he had to sit through meetings with more levels of management on the subject.Glory Days wrote:its tough to say though, we dont hear everything that was said between them. sometimes the way the show is edited makes it seem one way during a 3 minute clip that might have last 10-15 minutes in reality.LJ wrote:It's not so much that, he was just talking to him like he was an employee under him, not trying to explain why she was so overworked. He just talked to him so "this is just how it is". That would get you reprimanded with the quickness with me.Red_Skin_Pride wrote:No crap! If I was the prez, i'da been like bow down bitch!LJ wrote: Not sure I have ever noticed WM porta pots...
It also kinda ticked me off to see the regional manager giving the company President responses like he was giving.
Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Feb 7, 2010 11:19pm
Yeah. Someone got some ass chewed on, you can bet on that!LJ wrote:I was in a meeting where a project team I was on got it pretty hard. I was just an associate accountant and the Director of DFAS at the time, Zack Gaddy came in and gave us a nice professional stern talking to. After she left the room, the site management came in and absolutely went off on us. Even if he did talk to him more, I can say with 100% certainty that he had to sit through meetings with more levels of management on the subject.Glory Days wrote:its tough to say though, we dont hear everything that was said between them. sometimes the way the show is edited makes it seem one way during a 3 minute clip that might have last 10-15 minutes in reality.LJ wrote:It's not so much that, he was just talking to him like he was an employee under him, not trying to explain why she was so overworked. He just talked to him so "this is just how it is". That would get you reprimanded with the quickness with me.Red_Skin_Pride wrote:No crap! If I was the prez, i'da been like bow down bitch!LJ wrote: Not sure I have ever noticed WM porta pots...
It also kinda ticked me off to see the regional manager giving the company President responses like he was giving.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Feb 7, 2010 11:19pm
yeah you would think. but i am used to the military where there is a picture of everyone in the chain of command up to the president on the wall.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: I'm more surprised that people don't know their CEO's face.
chicago510
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Feb 7, 2010 11:24pm
Well he's the COO so he's probably second in command, and a lot of the regional and site managers knew him. The entry-level guys probably wouldn't know him unless they had been with WM for awhile.Glory Days wrote:yeah you would think. but i am used to the military where there is a picture of everyone in the chain of command up to the president on the wall.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: I'm more surprised that people don't know their CEO's face.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Feb 7, 2010 11:25pm
yeah i dont doubt that. that is pretty much the normal reaction when the big boss has a problem like that. i wouldnt be suprised though if he had wanted to hire other people, but the managers over him wouldnt allow it to keep costs down since that is what corporate was emphasizing.LJ wrote:I was in a meeting where a project team I was on got it pretty hard. I was just an associate accountant and the Director of DFAS at the time, Zack Gaddy came in and gave us a nice professional stern talking to. After she left the room, the site management came in and absolutely went off on us. Even if he did talk to him more, I can say with 100% certainty that he had to sit through meetings with more levels of management on the subject.Glory Days wrote:its tough to say though, we dont hear everything that was said between them. sometimes the way the show is edited makes it seem one way during a 3 minute clip that might have last 10-15 minutes in reality.LJ wrote:It's not so much that, he was just talking to him like he was an employee under him, not trying to explain why she was so overworked. He just talked to him so "this is just how it is". That would get you reprimanded with the quickness with me.Red_Skin_Pride wrote:No crap! If I was the prez, i'da been like bow down bitch!LJ wrote: Not sure I have ever noticed WM porta pots...
It also kinda ticked me off to see the regional manager giving the company President responses like he was giving.
UA5straightin2008
Posts: 3,246
Feb 7, 2010 11:25pm
interested to see the white castle one as well
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:28pm
The fact that he hasn't made himself visible to the workers and toured each facility numerous times speaks poorly of how he's handled things.
chicago510
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Feb 7, 2010 11:29pm
The only thing I wonder about is that there is probably like 100 Jaclyns out there at various landfills and sites across the country do they all get raises? Or do they just give her one for good PR when really cost cutting is straining a lot of their people.
chicago510
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Feb 7, 2010 11:31pm
This is true. He's COO which means he's in charge of operations so he should be in the facilities fairly often.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: The fact that he hasn't made himself visible to the workers and toured each facility numerous times speaks poorly of how he's handled things.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Feb 7, 2010 11:31pm
He also said he was the President, so he answers to the BOD and not much else.chicago510 wrote:Well he's the COO so he's probably second in command, and a lot of the regional and site managers knew him. The entry-level guys probably wouldn't know him unless they had been with WM for awhile.Glory Days wrote:yeah you would think. but i am used to the military where there is a picture of everyone in the chain of command up to the president on the wall.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: I'm more surprised that people don't know their CEO's face.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Feb 7, 2010 11:32pm
from looking at their website, they have over a thousand facilities in the US and Canada. might not be the easiest task to see them all.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: The fact that he hasn't made himself visible to the workers and toured each facility numerous times speaks poorly of how he's handled things.
LJ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:34pm
I'm good friends with a Rumpke and waste companies have so many employees and different sites it's just hard to meet and see everyone in companies like that. I do know though that Rumpke has more of an employee oriented approach being family owned and operated.Glory Days wrote:from looking at their website, they have over a thousand facilities in the US and Canada. might not be the easiest task to see them all.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: The fact that he hasn't made himself visible to the workers and toured each facility numerous times speaks poorly of how he's handled things.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Feb 7, 2010 11:36pm
What I don't get is how he didn't know of the policy that docks the workers two minutes for every minute theyre late. Do they not have employee handbooks or just not use them? Either way, it looks very bad on WM's part.
LJ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:37pm
Because the policy was that they have a 30 minute lunch. The site manager made that policy on his own without telling anyone else.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: What I don't get is how he didn't know of the policy that docks the workers two minutes for every minute theyre late. Do they not have employee handbooks or just not use them? Either way, it looks very bad on WM's part.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:38pm
...which goes in hand with not using the employee handbook. and looks very bad on WM's part.LJ wrote:Because the policy was that they have a 30 minute lunch. The site manager made that policy on his own without telling anyone else.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: What I don't get is how he didn't know of the policy that docks the workers two minutes for every minute theyre late. Do they not have employee handbooks or just not use them? Either way, it looks very bad on WM's part.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Feb 7, 2010 11:39pm
Eh, I don't think it makes them look that bad. They had a rouge site manager and they reprimanded him for it. With thousands of sites that isn't unheard of.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:...which goes in hand with not using the employee handbook. and looks very bad on WM's part.LJ wrote:Because the policy was that they have a 30 minute lunch. The site manager made that policy on his own without telling anyone else.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: What I don't get is how he didn't know of the policy that docks the workers two minutes for every minute theyre late. Do they not have employee handbooks or just not use them? Either way, it looks very bad on WM's part.
chicago510
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Feb 7, 2010 11:39pm
Larry made over 3 million in compensation for 2008.
Only David Steiner, CEO made more.
Only David Steiner, CEO made more.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Feb 7, 2010 11:41pm
Any respectable company would fire him, no questions asked.. not to say WM didn't though b/c we don't know.LJ wrote:Eh, I don't think it makes them look that bad. They had a rouge site manager and they reprimanded him for it. With thousands of sites that isn't unheard of.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:...which goes in hand with not using the employee handbook. and looks very bad on WM's part.LJ wrote:Because the policy was that they have a 30 minute lunch. The site manager made that policy on his own without telling anyone else.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: What I don't get is how he didn't know of the policy that docks the workers two minutes for every minute theyre late. Do they not have employee handbooks or just not use them? Either way, it looks very bad on WM's part.