Soccer is tight because you get stories like these:

Bartolome Terrassa, a television journalist, filed a formal complaint after a run-in with Eto'o in the club's parking lot, accusing the player of saying, "The next time, you are not going to escape; I'm going to kill you." This was not the first incident, however, as the previous year Eto'o's former agent, Daniel Argibeaut, accused the player of assaulting him with four accomplices, saying, "They then took off my shoes, which in Cameroon means I am threatened with death."[7]

Sage wrote: Soccer is tight because you get stories like these:

Bartolome Terrassa, a television journalist, filed a formal complaint after a run-in with Eto'o in the club's parking lot, accusing the player of saying, "The next time, you are not going to escape; I'm going to kill you." This was not the first incident, however, as the previous year Eto'o's former agent, Daniel Argibeaut, accused the player of assaulting him with four accomplices, saying, "They then took off my shoes, which in Cameroon means I am threatened with death."[7]

Cool story, bro.

Skyhook79 wrote: No one has answered why Football players need so many protective pads.

Nobody had answered because it was a dumb question. Since skateboarders wear pads, but joggers don't, does that mean jogging is tougher?

thavoice wrote: Ya know....

you take the average football player and put him on a soccer field and he will be ALOT better than what the average soccer player would be on the football field.

No doubt.

In most cases, yes. Some linemen might struggle, though. Either way, I might see some soccer players doing okay. Overall, though, I think you're right.

Laley23 wrote:

yeah, fairies.... BTW, dude finished the game with a broken nose and was still winning headers throughout.

There are plenty of good tough soccer players. To be fair, I think those people exist in every sport, though.

Laley23 wrote: btw, the "magic spray" is the same thing the baseball players use when they are hit by a pitch, or what football players use when they have a major bruise lol.

It is just an ointment that completely numbs the area and you feel no pain there for the foreseeable future. Ive used it on a sprained ankle and was able to finish the game. Couldnt walk the next day. Try using it before you mock what it actually does.

It's amazing. Got my tendonitis-ridden pitching arm through a 3-hit shutout in college.

karen lotz wrote: So you voted true in the poll??

Ronnie Lott laughs at broken noses.

Lott was a STUD. That doesn't mean football doesn't have its share of pussies, though.

karen lotz wrote: Saying soccer is a tough sport because McBride continually won headers with a broken nose proves nothing other than he really loves balls in or around his mouth.

The IQ on this thread just officially dropped.

GoChiefs wrote: I'm more of a football guy myself. Never could get into soccer. But I think to say it's for 'chicks, fairies, & foreigners' is completely ignorant. Soccer is a physical sport and you have to be a great athlete to be able to play the game.

Indeed. When you factor in the kind of endurance it takes, you need to be an athlete to play with any success.

Upper90 wrote: I'm mad at Sage's thread about a sport I like!!!!

I'm going to attack a sport he likes, and make a separate thread about it!!!!!

Don't mess with me!! I'm an adult!!!!

QFT

ts1227 wrote: I hate closed minded people.

"I don't like it, so it's gay" is about one step above a mentally retarded line of thought.

I also hate bad jokes on the interwebs.

you're not cut out for this board.

Sage wrote: Soccer is tight because you get stories like these:

Bartolome Terrassa, a television journalist, filed a formal complaint after a run-in with Eto'o in the club's parking lot, accusing the player of saying, "The next time, you are not going to escape; I'm going to kill you." This was not the first incident, however, as the previous year Eto'o's former agent, Daniel Argibeaut, accused the player of assaulting him with four accomplices, saying, "They then took off my shoes, which in Cameroon means I am threatened with death."[7]

thavoice wrote: you take the average football player and put him on a soccer field and he will be ALOT better than what the average soccer player would be on the football field.

No doubt.

Purely anecdotal, but at my high school, our soccer team would have given the football team a run for their money. However, if they tried playing soccer they would have got murdered. Not in good enough shape, and the skill set is totally different. Small school (150 kids a grade), knew all the kids, knew their athletic levels. If half the soccer team would have played football, the football team would have been much better. For the record, I liek watching football better than soccer, but I like watching soccer. And don't think it is gay to play either, or slowpitch softball, just don't act like your playing pro ball.

I think it is ridiculous to even compare the two, and these threads are always pointless, but i can't help it.

If we're going to talk about ridiculous reasons why a sport is "gay," like you guys are doing with soccer, can i say that football is gay because every play starts, essentially (aside from shotgun snaps), with a dude putting is hands right around/on another dudes crotch?

Ugh....still going???

As for the "toughness" and "injury" standpoint, I'll provide some FACT to help settle this STUPID debate.

In 2006 418,260 children were sent to the emergency room with injuries from playing football. Soccer produced only 174,686.

And in soccer it is illegal to touch balls with your hands unless you are the guy guarding the glorious hole. But it is legal to put whatever part of your head you want on the balls.

I love soccer, but the flopping around needs to go. It gives the sport a bad rep. I played football for ages started both ways and always on the field but after freshman year I decided I didn't like our football program or many of the players on my team so I switched to soccer having never played on any level.

I'd been playing football,baseball, and basketball all my life and never got seriously injured until the first year I played soccer. I blew my knee out, HARDCORE. Worst pain I've ever felt to this day. There were plenty of tough guys playing soccer at that time. Most wrestlers were soccer players. A lot of skateboarders were soccer players.

The reason that Im a bigger fan of football than futbol isn't some macho 'I need validation of my manhood' reason. It's the cerebral part of football that's attractive. The intensive strategy that goes into every play is what separates it from soccer.

Anyway if you want to talk about a real sport go watch a hockey game.

iclfan2 wrote:

thavoice wrote: you take the average football player and put him on a soccer field and he will be ALOT better than what the average soccer player would be on the football field.

No doubt.

Purely anecdotal, but at my high school, our soccer team would have given the football team a run for their money. However, if they tried playing soccer they would have got murdered. Not in good enough shape, and the skill set is totally different. Small school (150 kids a grade), knew all the kids, knew their athletic levels. If half the soccer team would have played football, the football team would have been much better. For the record, I liek watching football better than soccer, but I like watching soccer. And don't think it is gay to play either, or slowpitch softball, just don't act like your playing pro ball.

I played football but am probably a bigger soccer fan these days. I play soccer now in rec leagues for fun. Any soccer team that tried to play real football (pads, hitting, lineman, etc.) would be murdered. They simply would not have the size or strength to stop the run, and probably not the pass either. I also think (and this was proven through alumni games etc.) that is you took the 11 best guys off a football team and made a soccer lineup you could ugly up the game enough to draw or lose a close game, especially if you had a few guys who played a little soccer when they were younger. I know when I was one year out of high school me and some of my buddies scrimmaged our high school soccer team and beat them 2-0, even though we maybe had 3 people on the team who played soccer in high school. This was an average D-2 team in Ohio.

These arguments are hilarious lol....Football players wear pads and helmets because they are constantly tackling each other on every play(besides Cribbs, he is a god). Soccer players wear shin guards because it hurts like hell to get stud cleats straight into your shin, and that is your vulnerable part of the body.

Soccer players and Football players stick to their sports because it is two totally different types of play. Soccer is using the feet to control the ball while running, and while trying to get around defenders. Where as in football, yo use your hands to grab the ball. I don't get why people feel better about themselves to bash a sport that is consistently number 1 in the world and slowly creeping up the ranks in America as well.

If you played football in high school and haven't tried soccer, then you have no room to talk and I would love to see it. We had some of the most athletic people on my football team come play a few minutes of soccer, and looked like they were drunk off their ass trying to play. Same thing when I went to Capital. This argument is drawn out because BOTH are hard sports to grasp and to be able to play at a very high level in BOTH takes a lot of skill and athleticism.

Don't knock it til you try it, and don't put your personal hatred for it as a reason why it's for ferries** not the flying fag girl things the OP put in the title

O RLY??

What I gather from this thread is that half of you have seen football players do well in soccer while watching soccer players suck at football and the other half has seen football players suck at soccer and soccer players do well at football. Glad we cleared some things up.

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^^^
Are you going to do that on every thread?

YES??!

Snotbubbles,

Just curious as to the numbers of children playing those sports...for comparisons sake on those numbers. That would be interesting.


As a side note, and not trying to further this argument...but I would expect a LOT more kids to be injured playing football than soccer. Soccer you arent allowed to violently tackle people on a regular basis (IE, its only legal in certain ways and those ways only present themselves a few times a game). Football you do every play as it is presented every play for you to tackle legally.

Is this O RLY link SFW?

Laley23 wrote: Snotbubbles,

Just curious as to the numbers of children playing those sports...for comparisons sake on those numbers. That would be interesting.


As a side note, and not trying to further this argument...but I would expect a LOT more kids to be injured playing football than soccer. Soccer you arent allowed to violently tackle people on a regular basis (IE, its only legal in certain ways and those ways only present themselves a few times a game). Football you do every play as it is presented every play for you to tackle legally.

That's a good question. I didn't see that stat...but I'm sure it plays into it a little. However, I know when I was a "child" I played both football and soccer....so I doubt it's actually too much of a margin. You're just trying to further the argument!


Now to really settle this....

- Laley is an American.
- Laley isn't a girl.
- Laley has dated hotter women than most of us could dream of.

Therefore, it can only mean that soccer is not just for "chicks," not just for "foreigners" and definitely not gay.

/end argument

Laley23 wrote: ....As a side note, and not trying to further this argument...but I would expect a LOT more kids to be injured playing football than soccer. Soccer you arent allowed to violently tackle people on a regular basis (IE, its only legal in certain ways and those ways only present themselves a few times a game). Football you do every play as it is presented every play for you to tackle legally.

I certainly cannot speak for every school, but I can speak to my own experience...
Concussions this year in soccer outpaced those in football for the second consecutive year...why?
1. current helmet technology in football is the best that we have seen thus far...
2. there probably is some inherent bias where football players get their "bell rung", yet do not report it to the medical personnel secondary to football tradition and bias...
3. aggressive soccer play demands playing with the head...and when one or more head attempts to strike the flying ball, many times these heads will collide with significant force.
4. more emphasis has been giving to heads-up tackling and proper tackling mechanics in football...

with respect to overall injuries, severe injuries clearly occur in both, however, again, in my experience only, the two most devastating season-ending injuries that we have seen over the past two-three seasons have been an open fracture/dislocation of the ankle (that is, bone protruding thru skin), and a femur fracture.

Both in soccer.

You have to keep in mind that more kids play soccer than football because girls play soccer. And other than Holley Mangold you don't see too many girls (especially youth league) playing football.

SnotBubbles wrote:

That's a good question. I didn't see that stat...but I'm sure it plays into it a little. However, I know when I was a "child" I played both football and soccer....so I doubt it's actually too much of a margin. You're just trying to further the argument!


Now to really settle this....

- Laley is an American.
- Laley isn't a girl.
- Laley has dated hotter women than most of us could dream of.

Therefore, it can only mean that soccer is not just for "chicks," not just for "foreigners" and definitely not gay.

/end argument

yeah, I wouldnt think it would be much bigger. I actually would bet more youth play soccer, because its a mixed sex sport. I would think the second point I made would be more of a reason football has more ER visits.


...and thanks for the kind words on my women!

In my School our 7th and 8th grade football teams went Undefeated and the closest score was about 55-12. When HS started four players (who played both soccer and football) choose to play soccer. The players were the starting RB/LB, WR/DB, WR/S and 2nd string RB/starting LB. Our high school football team never won more then 7 games in a season during High School. The soccer team won regionals. The soccer team also had the 100M district and regional champion who came in 2nd in the state in D1. I think that was Maurice Halls senior year. Also each year atleast 2 seniors ran track for the first time after they were done with soccer and always advanced to state and in my four years there atleast 4 soccer players ended up with scholarships or partial scholarships for track after only running there senior year including one who ran for Kentucky. To say soccer players couldn't compete in any sport is ignorant. A soccer player might not make the good lineman but i bet he could be a good db or free safety. In America right now most athletes choose to play other sports but that doesnt mean there are not good athletes on the soccer field.

As for soccer If American kids grew up kicking a ball around instead of catching a football or baseball when they were young America would easily be the best in the World in soccer. Just image someone like Allen Iverson or Lebron James on a soccer Pitch. Their combination of size and speed would be unstoppable. One day America will have a kid like Allen Iverson who chooses soccer and lands with a good coach and he will help bring the sport to the level of MLB or the NBA. Soccer will never be like the NFL because fantasy soccer isn't as fun as fantasy football and betting on soccer is a more difficult bet. Soccer has already started to grow though thanks to HD televisions.

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