Where should the US begin to curtail its global military presence?

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Feb 4, 2010 11:58 PM
Glory Days wrote:
dwccrew wrote:
Glory Days wrote: of those 500, how many were transport aircraft and other non fighters? from the article:
Theoretically, the IQAF should have been 'hardened' by the conflict with Iran, but post-war purges decimated the air force, as the Iraqi regime struggled to bring it back under total control.[7] Training was brought to the minimum during the whole of 1990
we were caught with our pants down still training our army to defend Europe against the Russian horde invading through the Fulda Gap. we were not prepared to fight wars like we currently are in Afghanistan and Iraq. look how long it took to figure it out even though the plans have been on the table since Vietnam(many of Petraeus' ideas came from General Abrams).
eersandbeers wrote: I think people need to come into this decade and realize there is almost no chance we will go to war against Russia or China. Or any other traditional world power. It simply won't happen.

But that excuse is continually used to justify ridiculous military spending.
dwccrew wrote: ^^^^Precisely. With globalization, most industrialized countries rely too much on each other to fight each other.
those are the exact reasons why we could goto war. what happens when China invades Taiwan? What happens when N. Korea finally has enough of starving and on Kim Jong-il's death bed he orders an invasion of the south? what about when china's economy collapses and its time to pony up with all the money china has given us? to completely ignore the possibility of a war against a developed country is flat out stupid and irresponsible.

LOL, not sure what the quote you quoted from the article has to do with anything.

And again, eers said almost no chance. Of course there is always a chance, but there is also a chance that an asteroid could hit Earth
it was just to show that their Air Force was also a bag of ass.

haha and when that asteroid came, look what we had to do, get Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck to go up and destroy it. it worked, but not my first option!

Compared to ours, yes, the Iraqi military was a bag of ass; however, in the world, they were one of the stronger militaries. No military comes close to the US military. Of course our government loves to scare us into thinking there is countries that pose a threat to us, in reality, we could handle them all if we went full force. The government scares us so that we blindly continue to pump money into the military industrial complex, in which many politicians have investments in.

Sure it sounds cooky, but it makes sense too.


And I believe Bruce Willis could blow that asteroid up, but Ben Affleck is a bag of vomit.
Feb 4, 2010 11:58pm
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Feb 5, 2010 12:42 AM
eersandbeers wrote: I think people need to come into this decade and realize there is almost no chance we will go to war against Russia or China. Or any other traditional world power. It simply won't happen.
My response was in reference to your contradictory statement that it "simply won't happen". You have clarified that it is possible yet unlikely to happen. We should guard against it, but not take unreasonble and costly measures to do so. I think we are in agreement.
Feb 5, 2010 12:42am
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dwccrew

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Feb 5, 2010 12:45 AM
^^^Yes to your second to last sentence
Feb 5, 2010 12:45am
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Feb 5, 2010 1:27 AM
Globalization will eventually break down and it will be from Americans, Eastern Europeans and possibly Chinese. Americans won't take the hardening authoritarian big government rule from both parties forever. Eastern Europeans will be the same, remembering the Soviets, and the Chinese might rebel because part of their productivity is basically being given to us as we can't repay all of our debts.
Feb 5, 2010 1:27am