From the Hills
Posts: 190
Jan 14, 2010 11:54am
Do you believe Cav's management intentionally tanked the 02-03 season in order to land the first draft pick and pick James? Coack Luke believes they did and I tend to agree with him.
I know they still had to win the NBA draft lottery, but the way the franchise was heading I think it was a chance they thought was worth taking. Even if Gordon Gund claims otherwise.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/01/13/john-lucas-cavs-tanked-to-get-lebron/
I know they still had to win the NBA draft lottery, but the way the franchise was heading I think it was a chance they thought was worth taking. Even if Gordon Gund claims otherwise.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/01/13/john-lucas-cavs-tanked-to-get-lebron/
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 14, 2010 12:18pm
Yes.....without a doubt.
I would have found it really funny if they had tanked and still had not gotten the #1 pick
I would have found it really funny if they had tanked and still had not gotten the #1 pick
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jan 14, 2010 12:36pm
I'd hate to think that they were trying and were still that bad.
Emmett Brown
Posts: 478
Jan 14, 2010 12:37pm
Not only was the season tanked but the Lottery was fixed. When was the last time the worst time drafted #1? It has happened four times in 24 years.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 14, 2010 12:38pm
I'm not sure, but can you blame them? LBJ has a great chance to go down as the best to have ever played the game, and he's only in his 7th season.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 14, 2010 12:39pm
Ummm...no sorry
Thanks for playing though
Thanks for playing though
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 14, 2010 12:42pm
Thats about 17% of the time. The odds say the worst team gets it 1 in 4 times. With only 24 data its hard to say if things are fixed or if they are just happening according to the odds.Emmett Brown wrote: Not only was the season tanked but the Lottery was fixed. When was the last time the worst time drafted #1? It has happened four times in 24 years.
Who cares if the Cavs tanked on purpose.
From the Hills
Posts: 190
Jan 14, 2010 12:56pm
Coach Lucas seems to care, it seems to have bothered him for a long time. That and not being able to coach Lebron.bases_loaded wrote:Thats about 17% of the time. The odds say the worst team gets it 1 in 4 times. With only 24 data its hard to say if things are fixed or if they are just happening according to the odds.Emmett Brown wrote: Not only was the season tanked but the Lottery was fixed. When was the last time the worst time drafted #1? It has happened four times in 24 years.
Who cares if the Cavs tanked on purpose.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 14, 2010 12:58pm
I think Lebron James is the only player in NBA history who was allowed to hand-pick his Head Coach
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 14, 2010 12:59pm
Good lord...pass out the tin foil hats.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Jan 14, 2010 1:01pm
It's a pretty well-known fact that Lebron didn't like Paul Silas and wanted him out...so he was fired.
And Lebron was involved in picking Mike Brown because he knew Brown would let him do what he wants
And Lebron was involved in picking Mike Brown because he knew Brown would let him do what he wants
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 14, 2010 1:03pm
Who cares? Teams do it all the time. I read somewhere that someone(columnist) made the point that they should have a mini tournament with the teams outside of the 7th spot to determine the 8th seed. It gives all the teams something to play for when they are usually elimintaed.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 14, 2010 1:17pm
and once again...who cares, outside of those who were paid well to not coach. The Cavs have become a consistently good program, the city, owner, and fans benefit from that. I hope the Cavs did tank the season and the NBA fixed the lottery because without Lebron who knows what city the Cavs are playing in right nowElliot Stabler wrote: It's a pretty well-known fact that Lebron didn't like Paul Silas and wanted him out...so he was fired.
And Lebron was involved in picking Mike Brown because he knew Brown would let him do what he wants
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Jan 14, 2010 1:19pm
tanking, probably, but that team was pretty bad on its own merit. it's not like the 29 wins earned the year before that was a sign of a quality team or anything like that
From the Hills
Posts: 190
Jan 14, 2010 1:23pm
That's my point. I think the season was tanked to save the franchise and your probably right, without Lebron they might be the Oklahoma City Cavaliers.bases_loaded wrote:and once again...who cares, outside of those who were paid well to not coach. The Cavs have become a consistently good program, the city, owner, and fans benefit from that. I hope the Cavs did tank the season and the NBA fixed the lottery because without Lebron who knows what city the Cavs are playing in right nowElliot Stabler wrote: It's a pretty well-known fact that Lebron didn't like Paul Silas and wanted him out...so he was fired.
And Lebron was involved in picking Mike Brown because he knew Brown would let him do what he wants
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Jan 14, 2010 1:28pm
Can't tell me the NBA didn't see this as a chance to revive a dying (and not profitable) franchise with a hometown kid.
If the Cavs did tank...it had the full blessing of Stern.
If the Cavs did tank...it had the full blessing of Stern.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 14, 2010 1:28pm
Do I think they intentionally tanked it?
Nah...if they had actually tried to tank it then they woulda messed that up too.
Nah...if they had actually tried to tank it then they woulda messed that up too.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
Jan 14, 2010 1:44pm
Yeah because the NBA would really fix the lottery so LeBron can go to Cleveland. They really want him in Cleveland...Right.Emmett Brown wrote: Not only was the season tanked but the Lottery was fixed. When was the last time the worst time drafted #1? It has happened four times in 24 years.
Maybe if New York or LA had a chance at the #1...
Scarlet_Fever
Posts: 736
Jan 14, 2010 1:55pm
Did they tank? Yes
Was the Lottery Fixed? I highly doubt it.
Was the Lottery Fixed? I highly doubt it.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 14, 2010 1:56pm
I don't really care, but I remember being pissed when they won their last game before that draft and tied the Nuggets for worst record....lol
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 14, 2010 2:58pm
He had to be discouraged from playing Bimbo Coles?
From the Hills
Posts: 190
Jan 14, 2010 5:47pm
When you have the great Smush Parker on the roster why would you play anyone else at point!!Mulva wrote: He had to be discouraged from playing Bimbo Coles?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jan 14, 2010 5:53pm
Did they tank? I don't know why they would since its a lottery and the worst team hardly ever wins.
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Jan 14, 2010 7:10pm
No shit they did.
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Jan 14, 2010 7:10pm
John Lucas says in a ESPN article that they indeed tanked the season to get LeBron.