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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 13, 2010 10:46am
This guy is following Kiffin to USC. He has called 9 UT recruits that were all enrolling early at Tenn. He encouraged them to not attend their classes today. Today was the beginning of a new semester. He told them do not attend any classes bc if you do, you wont be able to transfer to USC with us without sitting a year out. By not attending they could follow to USC and play right away. This is total BS!! They say kids are students first? HaHa
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Jan 13, 2010 10:48am
College Athletics are getting worse and worse by the day.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 13, 2010 10:54am
And you know this how? Wouldn't surprise me...but I wonder how something like this got out? UT boards are going to spread rumors like crazy to get at Kiffin.september63 wrote: This guy is following Kiffin to USC. He has called 9 UT recruits that were all enrolling early at Tenn. He encouraged them to not attend their classes today. Today was the beginning of a new semester. He told them do not attend any classes bc if you do, you wont be able to transfer to USC with us without sitting a year out. By not attending they could follow to USC and play right away. This is total BS!! They say kids are students first? HaHa
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jan 13, 2010 11:10am
LOL Orgeron is my old roommate in Florida's Uncle...
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Jan 13, 2010 11:47am
I heard this on the radio this morning...not 100% reliable...but better than a internet board.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jan 13, 2010 11:48am
It was on ESPN too
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 13, 2010 11:51am
It is on ESPN...........link wont transfer...........Google him..............you will find story.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 13, 2010 11:52am
One of the best things about pro ball is that you don't have the student-athlete hypocrisy you have in college, and unfortunately even in high schools.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 13, 2010 12:04pm
I don't blame him. It's not a secret that recruits pick coaches moreso than campuses and schools these days, so even if they play on staying at Tennessee, it would be smart for them to not start classes so they can rethink their committment.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Jan 13, 2010 12:35pm
its not like they have to start early...if the coach that recruited them isn't going to be there, might be wise step back (even without orgeron telling them to do so) and re-think their committment before being locked into that school
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 13, 2010 12:49pm
I wouldn't blame him either. You've worked hard to get those kids, then the plan changes and you still want them to go with you to USC. pretty smart move on his part
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 13, 2010 12:58pm
I don't blame the athlete at all, but they should do it without coercion.I wouldn't blame him either.
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Jan 13, 2010 1:02pm
september63 wrote: This is total BS!!
no, its not.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 13, 2010 1:07pm
It is BS. I am just pointing out the hypocritical nature in college athletics. They try saying they are student-athletes, then a coach calls kids and tells them not to attend classes.rocket31 wrote:september63 wrote: This is total BS!!
no, its not.
Also, as recently as 1 week ago Orgeron is sitting in a living room promising parents if their kid comes to UT he will get a quality education?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 13, 2010 1:22pm
In a perfect world, players would be attending schools primarily based on the school. In the real world, we know better. When a head coach leaves, the players should be free to transfer without penalty.
3reppom
Posts: 765
Jan 13, 2010 1:33pm
From the NCAA's perspective allowing that would open up pandora's box, and that is something they will not willfully bring about. They will hold on to the idea, that big intercollegiate athletics are %100 amateur until the entire system comes crashing down on their head. I agree that allowing kids to transfer if the coach that recruited them takes another job would be the right thing to do, but the NCAA wouldn't stand for it.queencitybuckeye wrote: In a perfect world, players would be attending schools primarily based on the school. In the real world, we know better. When a head coach leaves, the players should be free to transfer without penalty.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 13, 2010 1:44pm
Okay, and if they didn't graduate high school EARLY to play for KIFFIN and ORGERON, then they'd still be in high school. As it stands, they're not attending college classes, WHICH THEY WOULDN'T BE ANYWAYS had they not graduated early, so they can follow those who RECRUITED them.september63 wrote:It is BS. I am just pointing out the hypocritical nature in college athletics. They try saying they are student-athletes, then a coach calls kids and tells them not to attend classes.rocket31 wrote:september63 wrote: This is total BS!!
no, its not.
Also, as recently as 1 week ago Orgeron is sitting in a living room promising parents if their kid comes to UT he will get a quality education?
Pretty sure that's not BS.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Jan 13, 2010 3:29pm
If they walk into the classroom, the clock starts 5 years to play 4. Today is the day for the EE's. If they stay out, they can change. If they go to class, they would burn a redshirt (mandatory) to transfer. Also, a couple of EE's went through drills for UT's bowl game. They may be stuck.
check out what Volquest reports on Ed O.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPAJTGOSK00
check out what Volquest reports on Ed O.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPAJTGOSK00
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Jan 13, 2010 4:28pm
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Jan 13, 2010 4:56pm
Look for Ogeron to go after LSU recruits, especially Marsh who was recruited by USC and is from California. Ogeron sure does bounce around from school to school.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 13, 2010 5:00pm
If they went through bowl practice drills(how in the hell can you do that unless you're really on pace to graduate high school early and your school is on quarters), then those kids would be screwed.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 13, 2010 5:47pm
For all of you that said it was an OK thing to do. I suggested it was BS what they were doing telling recruits to not go to classes and come to USC. ESPN College guy Pat Forde just called it bushleague, lower than low. Flat out a sleazy move!! It has always been an unwritten rule not to do this.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 13, 2010 5:53pm
Forde has no clue what he's talking about. There are no such things as unwritten rules in my book. Until the kid has signed and NLI, everything is fair game
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 13, 2010 5:53pm
Since when has anyone aligned with USC cared about rules, whether the be written or unwritten. Especially the new head coach.
Anyone who is surprised by this needs to come join the real world.
Anyone who is surprised by this needs to come join the real world.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 13, 2010 6:24pm
Add Tom Luginbill, ESPN recruiting expert, to the list blasting Kiffins move calling recruits to skip classes and come to USC. Luginbill called it "going way over the line."