jmog wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/11/years-global-cooling-coming-say-leading-scientists/

Basically admits that "a good portion" of our climate is natural cycles, but don't give up the ghost on man-made global warming and basically says that the upcoming "mini-ice age" would have been colder if not for our CO2 emissions and our next "warming trend" after that will be much worse than it should be because of man made CO2.

So much for those melting glaciers by 2050!

ARticle today:

The deniers are at it again.

This winter's cold spell, which chilled folks in England, the Midwest, and even Florida farm country, has led a prominent European scientist to argue that global warming has ended and that we're in for 30 years of global cooling. Or at least that's what Britain's Daily Mail says. The scientist, Professor Mojib Latif of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, told the Mail that "winters like this one will become much more likely."

In addition to a 2008 report that is widely mischaracterized as proof that warming has slowed, this led the Mail, whose report was later picked up by Fox News, to claim that such statements could prove that the threat of global warming has been blown out of proportion:

continues at:
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/01/daily-mail-bends-science-support-global-cooling

That's great...."Yes, we were wrong about global waming, BUT....it's still warmer than it should be!" Maybe they are just wrong all together and the 0.3% increase in CO2 has no impact.

I mean, if cows are the leading produces of global warming emissions, what kind of impact do you think T-Rex farts had in the age of dinosaurs?

gut wrote: That's great...."Yes, we were wrong about global waming, BUT....it's still warmer than it should be!" Maybe they are just wrong all together and the 0.3% increase in CO2 has no impact.

I mean, if cows are the leading produces of global warming emissions, what kind of impact do you think T-Rex farts had in the age of dinosaurs?

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

That got me!

I may deny the unproven man-made global warming theory, but at least I don't deny common sense like many radicals as they mindlessly sprew the talking point lies - the science is settled, there is a consensus and outrageously comparing people who question the theory to Holocaust deniers.

bman618 wrote: I may deny the unproven man-made global warming theory, but at least I don't deny common sense like many radicals as they mindlessly sprew the talking point lies - the science is settled, there is a consensus and outrageously comparing people who question the theory to Holocaust deniers.

Some very good scientists are owed an apology by these people for painting them with the same broad brush as the fringe wack jobs that exist at the edges of any topic. They won't get it, of course.

queencitybuckeye wrote:

bman618 wrote: I may deny the unproven man-made global warming theory, but at least I don't deny common sense like many radicals as they mindlessly sprew the talking point lies - the science is settled, there is a consensus and outrageously comparing people who question the theory to Holocaust deniers.

Some very good scientists are owed an apology by these people for painting them with the same broad brush as the fringe wack jobs that exist at the edges of any topic. They won't get it, of course.

Of course they won't get it. To be validated, scientific research must be corroborated and verified independently. Political and religious zealots can just shoot from the hip and pick and choose what 'science' they want to validate their talking points.

The earth is warming, it's cooling....it's warming it's cooling....Why don't they just pick a climate trend and go with it?

There are very few 'unbiased' scientists in any field were grants are to be awarded and tenure in a contract. They find the answers that the 'money' wants them to find.
Otherwise they lose.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/bauer1.1.1.html

I've read that article and it speaks to the heart of the problem I have with "science" today.

hahahahahahahaha. Idiots.

jmog wrote: I've read that article and it speaks to the heart of the problem I have with "science" today.

I have to agree. The politicization of scientific research has become an alarming problem. IMO, there are no better examples of this than global warming and second-hand smoke research, and we've also seen it creep into areas of economics, as well (though economics has never been considered such a "hard" science)