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zhon44622
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Jan 10, 2010 8:15pm
As the 2010 elections swing into action and the premise seems to be to campaign against our President, what exactly are the pinnacles of legislation that the GOP proposed or imposed during their control of congress between 1994 and 2006 that we may have forgot?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 10, 2010 8:20pm
Well, the budget issues of the 1990s come to mind.
Also, the 2004 Intelligence Reform Act. Some could even say, No Child Left Behind.
Also, the 2004 Intelligence Reform Act. Some could even say, No Child Left Behind.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 10, 2010 8:25pm
Well they balanced the budget, thus giving us that brief surplus that you people laughingly try and give Clinton 100% credit for all the time.zhon44622 wrote: As the 2010 elections swing into action and the premise seems to be to campaign against our President, what exactly are the pinnacles of legislation that the GOP proposed or imposed during their control of congress between 1994 and 2006 that we may have forgot?
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 10, 2010 8:36pm
Doesn't the balanced budget become a moot point with the subsequent six years under Bush?
(as far as the "you people" - Believe it or not there are a lot of folks who dont play the US vs THEM game and are the independents who in reality are the ones who are actually responsible for who gets elected. While I am quite liberal when it comes to the social issues, I am polar opposite when it comes to the fiscal side.)
(as far as the "you people" - Believe it or not there are a lot of folks who dont play the US vs THEM game and are the independents who in reality are the ones who are actually responsible for who gets elected. While I am quite liberal when it comes to the social issues, I am polar opposite when it comes to the fiscal side.)
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 10, 2010 8:38pm
What are the successes of No Child Left Behind that immediately come to your head?ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Well, the budget issues of the 1990s come to mind.
Also, the 2004 Intelligence Reform Act. Some could even say, No Child Left Behind.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 10, 2010 9:04pm
Personally, I think NCLB is one of the biggest boondoggles in federal history.
I don't want the feds involved in education. Period.
That is a state responsibility.
Also, I didn't realize the GOP was completely in charge of Congress for 12 years. When did that happen and how did I miss it?
I don't want the feds involved in education. Period.
That is a state responsibility.
Also, I didn't realize the GOP was completely in charge of Congress for 12 years. When did that happen and how did I miss it?
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 10, 2010 9:08pm
In 2000 the senate became evenly split - which gave Cheney the deciding vote and therefore control.Writerbuckeye wrote: Personally, I think NCLB is one of the biggest boondoggles in federal history.
I don't want the feds involved in education. Period.
That is a state responsibility.
Also, I didn't realize the GOP was completely in charge of Congress for 12 years. When did that happen and how did I miss it?
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 10, 2010 9:13pm
That's not 12 years. Thus my point.
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 10, 2010 9:34pm
The had greater control from 94-00 and continued to have half plus Cheneys vote untill 06 - thus 12 yearsWriterbuckeye wrote: That's not 12 years. Thus my point.
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2trap_4ever
Posts: 38
Jan 10, 2010 10:54pm
I think the bigger question is what has this Democrat lead Congress gave us other than debt beyond our wildest dreams.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 10, 2010 10:57pm
You must be a Democrat. They're notoriously bad at math.zhon44622 wrote:The had greater control from 94-00 and continued to have half plus Cheneys vote untill 06 - thus 12 yearsWriterbuckeye wrote: That's not 12 years. Thus my point.
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 10, 2010 10:59pm
1994-2006 is 12 years..Writerbuckeye wrote:You must be a Democrat. They're notoriously bad at math.zhon44622 wrote:The had greater control from 94-00 and continued to have half plus Cheneys vote untill 06 - thus 12 yearsWriterbuckeye wrote: That's not 12 years. Thus my point.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 10, 2010 11:18pm
Wonderful things like No Child Left Behind, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, the Patriot Act, etc.zhon44622 wrote: As the 2010 elections swing into action and the premise seems to be to campaign against our President, what exactly are the pinnacles of legislation that the GOP proposed or imposed during their control of congress between 1994 and 2006 that we may have forgot?
Edit: Before someone jumps down my throat about it, I was being incredibly sarcastic. Those are all atrocities of bills.
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Ghmothwdwhso
Posts: 534
Jan 11, 2010 1:22am
Please vote for the Independent candiate next time.zhon44622 wrote: Doesn't the balanced budget become a moot point with the subsequent six years under Bush?
(as far as the "you people" - Believe it or not there are a lot of folks who dont play the US vs THEM game and are the independents who in reality are the ones who are actually responsible for who gets elected. While I am quite liberal when it comes to the social issues, I am polar opposite when it comes to the fiscal side.)
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Ghmothwdwhso
Posts: 534
Jan 11, 2010 1:25am
It is not (or shouldn't be) a State responsibility, it is a family responsibility. The familiy is responsible for raising their offspring, with or without help from their immediate community, as they see fit.Writerbuckeye wrote: Personally, I think NCLB is one of the biggest boondoggles in federal history.
I don't want the feds involved in education. Period.
That is a state responsibility.
Also, I didn't realize the GOP was completely in charge of Congress for 12 years. When did that happen and how did I miss it?
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 11, 2010 2:57am
Ill vote for the candidate i feel is best suited to do the job.Ghmothwdwhso wrote:Please vote for the Independent candiate next time.zhon44622 wrote: Doesn't the balanced budget become a moot point with the subsequent six years under Bush?
(as far as the "you people" - Believe it or not there are a lot of folks who dont play the US vs THEM game and are the independents who in reality are the ones who are actually responsible for who gets elected. While I am quite liberal when it comes to the social issues, I am polar opposite when it comes to the fiscal side.)
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 11, 2010 9:47pm
So we have come up with 3 highly disputed pieces of legislation?
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Jan 11, 2010 11:03pm
Not taking a side either way...but suppose a child is born to really bad parents...she has no choice as to who her parents are, even one's who willingly or negligently fail to educate their children. Does a state or a community have some kind of obligation to provide that child an education?Ghmothwdwhso wrote:It is not (or shouldn't be) a State responsibility, it is a family responsibility. The familiy is responsible for raising their offspring, with or without help from their immediate community, as they see fit.Writerbuckeye wrote: Personally, I think NCLB is one of the biggest boondoggles in federal history.
I don't want the feds involved in education. Period.
That is a state responsibility.
Also, I didn't realize the GOP was completely in charge of Congress for 12 years. When did that happen and how did I miss it?
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 11, 2010 11:03pm
Don't parse with me. If it's done at the local level, then the state will have some of the responsibility; which is how the founders envisioned it, as opposed to having the feds so involved. I happen to agree with you.Ghmothwdwhso wrote:It is not (or shouldn't be) a State responsibility, it is a family responsibility. The familiy is responsible for raising their offspring, with or without help from their immediate community, as they see fit.Writerbuckeye wrote: Personally, I think NCLB is one of the biggest boondoggles in federal history.
I don't want the feds involved in education. Period.
That is a state responsibility.
Also, I didn't realize the GOP was completely in charge of Congress for 12 years. When did that happen and how did I miss it?
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 18, 2010 12:33pm
I guess i assumed with the "conservative circle jerk" that this site has been referred to, I would be able to have somebody bring up some issues that may have been forgotten. I guess that I was wrong.
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
Jan 18, 2010 12:41pm
You need to bring up something about the media to get the conservative circle jerk really going.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 18, 2010 1:52pm
It's only referred to as that by the pansies tired of getting their asses kicked for 12 months...seems they're finding that playing defense isn't nearly as fun as playing offense.zhon44622 wrote: I guess i assumed with the "conservative circle jerk" that this site has been referred to, I would be able to have somebody bring up some issues that may have been forgotten. I guess that I was wrong.
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zhon44622
Posts: 226
Jan 18, 2010 3:29pm
As your response to the question seems to be one of Defense you seem to be speaking of yourself, perhaps you could go on offense and answer the initial question.fish82 wrote:It's only referred to as that by the pansies tired of getting their asses kicked for 12 months...seems they're finding that playing defense isn't nearly as fun as playing offense.zhon44622 wrote: I guess i assumed with the "conservative circle jerk" that this site has been referred to, I would be able to have somebody bring up some issues that may have been forgotten. I guess that I was wrong.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 18, 2010 6:03pm
I already did. Read back.zhon44622 wrote:As your response to the question seems to be one of Defense you seem to be speaking of yourself, perhaps you could go on offense and answer the initial question.fish82 wrote:It's only referred to as that by the pansies tired of getting their asses kicked for 12 months...seems they're finding that playing defense isn't nearly as fun as playing offense.zhon44622 wrote: I guess i assumed with the "conservative circle jerk" that this site has been referred to, I would be able to have somebody bring up some issues that may have been forgotten. I guess that I was wrong.
Sidebar: You need a new avatar. That's the gayest tornado I've ever seen.
Apple
Posts: 2,620
Jan 18, 2010 6:15pm
Welfare reform was a big success that the republicrats brought WJC kicking and dragging to finally sign.