ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 10, 2010 8:01pm
Rodgers BLOWS it, man what an effort to get back in it, have a record setting game and have that happen, unbelievable
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Jan 10, 2010 8:01pm
lol Wow! Close enough.mhs95_06 wrote: I think the team that loses the toss will get a fluke interception that will lead to them winning it!
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 10, 2010 8:02pm
Drew Brees is going to get in that ass next weekend.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 10, 2010 8:02pm
mhs95_06 wrote: I think the team that loses the toss will get a fluke interception that will lead to them winning it!
Non
Posts: 9,517
Jan 10, 2010 8:02pm
he caught it anyway
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 10, 2010 8:02pm
Jennings and Rodgers wish they had that first down play situation back and completed the game winning deep pass!
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 10, 2010 8:02pm
I was wondering about that. It looked like it.Non wrote: tuck rule?
Non
Posts: 9,517
Jan 10, 2010 8:04pm
I thought it bounced off the ground at first
it hit his foot and Dansby caught it so it wouldn't matter
it hit his foot and Dansby caught it so it wouldn't matter
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 10, 2010 8:04pm
Could've been if he didn't catch it.I was wondering about that. It looked like it.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 10, 2010 8:06pm
Ah, okay. Makes sense. I saw it the same way non saw it at first.se-alum wrote:Could've been if he didn't catch it.I was wondering about that. It looked like it.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 10, 2010 8:08pm
So does the tuck rule make that an interception return rather than a fumble return?
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 10, 2010 8:10pm
2nd to last play of the game they missed a helmet to helmet on Rodgers, which would have been a 1st down. Last play, after the INT, a facemask dragging Rodgers down! INT would have stood, but the return brought back.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Jan 10, 2010 8:10pm
yeah I think so
it will probably go into the books as a fumble because the refs didn't make that distinction on the field
but it should be incomplete pass, interception return
it will probably go into the books as a fumble because the refs didn't make that distinction on the field
but it should be incomplete pass, interception return
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 10, 2010 8:11pm
You are right...in terms of historical record...in fact I think it's on;y about 54%. My point was that in this type of game....when there was a total of maybe 2 punts...the odds would be around 95%.ts1227 wrote:Actually it's only about 55-65% of the time, if you google the topic.Footwedge wrote: Wow!!. OT coming up. This game would be better served with college OT rules. The team that hits the coin flip will win 95% of the time.
And as is always the case....my 95% prediction of odds turns out to be an epic fail.
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GeneralsIcer89
Posts: 281
Jan 10, 2010 8:12pm
Wonder what would have happened if they'd called the damn helmet-to-helmet. *sigh* Oh well.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 10, 2010 8:14pm
So in retrospect, GB's best chance to win would have been for Havner to go down on the 2 yd line, run two running plays to get the clock down and using Ariz timeouts, then a 3rd running play to get a first down on the half yd line, then punch it in for a TD on whatever down the clock will be down to 5 seconds, saving enough time for another time-out and last chance to score a TD if needed. And then convert a 2 point conversion for a regulation time win. Sure is difficult when your defense can't stop the opponent!
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 10, 2010 8:15pm
That game was cool. One for the ages...even though I wanted the
Pack to prevail.
Neil Rackers case of puckered asshole syndrone lives to fight another week.
Pack to prevail.
Neil Rackers case of puckered asshole syndrone lives to fight another week.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 10, 2010 8:19pm
What would have been really interesting....if the last play was an incomplete pass making it 4th and 5. Would they punt? Or play Bellichek ball and go for it?mhs95_06 wrote: So in retrospect, GB's best chance to win would have been for Havner to go down on the 2 yd line, run two running plays to get the clock down and using Ariz timeouts, then a 3rd running play to get a first down on the half yd line, then punch it in for a TD on whatever down the clock will be down to 5 seconds, saving enough time for another time-out and last chance to score a TD if needed. And then convert a 2 point conversion for a regulation time win. Sure is difficult when your defense can't stop the opponent!
They were 2 of 2 making 4th down conversions.
We will never know....but I would have gone for it on 4th and 5....no questions asked. Arizona punted once the whole game.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 10, 2010 8:20pm
It would have been off setting penalties and the down replayed. How does that effect what happened 2 plays later???GeneralsIcer89 wrote: Wonder what would have happened if they'd called the damn helmet-to-helmet. *sigh* Oh well.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 10, 2010 8:28pm
Aaron Rodgers right now is being lit up on Packers forums as Brett Favre reincarnated.
Play brilliantly all game, but make a bone head play/interception in crunch time to lose the team the game.
It's a shame because he played a great game leading them back, but I could see how they were feeling Deja vu seeing the game end in a very Favre like manner where you negate all the good you did with one play you would love to have back.
I thought Browns fans were brutal, but attacking a Qb that threw for 420+ and 4TD makes us look tame.
Play brilliantly all game, but make a bone head play/interception in crunch time to lose the team the game.
It's a shame because he played a great game leading them back, but I could see how they were feeling Deja vu seeing the game end in a very Favre like manner where you negate all the good you did with one play you would love to have back.
I thought Browns fans were brutal, but attacking a Qb that threw for 420+ and 4TD makes us look tame.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 10, 2010 8:31pm
I would have thought that going for it on 4th and 6 at your own 24 would have been a good strategical call by GB.Footwedge wrote:What would have been really interesting....if the last play was an incomplete pass making it 4th and 5. Would they punt? Or play Bellichek ball and go for it?mhs95_06 wrote: So in retrospect, GB's best chance to win would have been for Havner to go down on the 2 yd line, run two running plays to get the clock down and using Ariz timeouts, then a 3rd running play to get a first down on the half yd line, then punch it in for a TD on whatever down the clock will be down to 5 seconds, saving enough time for another time-out and last chance to score a TD if needed. And then convert a 2 point conversion for a regulation time win. Sure is difficult when your defense can't stop the opponent!
They were 2 of 2 making 4th down conversions.
We will never know....but I would have gone for it on 4th and 5....no questions asked. Arizona punted once the whole game.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Jan 10, 2010 8:31pm
I wanted the Pack to prevail but that didn't happen. Rodgers was hit helmet to helmet and there was no call. He was getting the Brett Favre treatment lol.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 10, 2010 8:36pm
I wouldn't say that was a "bonehead play", just an unfortunate result. Most of the time it would be 4th and 6, and if they go for it, AZ would be closing in on the short routes similar to what they were on the first down in OT when Rodgers and Jennings weren't on the same page for what should have been a game winning play, So I would have tried that same play again to win it on one play!IggyPride00 wrote: Aaron Rodgers right now is being lit up on Packers forums as Brett Favre reincarnated.
Play brilliantly all game, but make a bone head play/interception in crunch time to lose the team the game.
It's a shame because he played a great game leading them back, but I could see how they were feeling Deja vu seeing the game end in a very Favre like manner where you negate all the good you did with one play you would love to have back.
I thought Browns fans were brutal, but attacking a Qb that threw for 420+ and 4TD makes us look tame.
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myron pater boswell
Posts: 96
Jan 10, 2010 10:17pm
I may have missed this in the thread, but it was very clear that as the helmet-to-helmet occurred, the referee was tossing the flag at the hold that was occurring.GeneralsIcer89 wrote: Wonder what would have happened if they'd called the damn helmet-to-helmet. *sigh* Oh well.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 12, 2010 12:00am
I have reviewed that final play several times, and am changing my mind that it was indeed a "bonehead play" by Rodgers. The bonehead part stems from his competetive desire to keep the play going. I think if the play was reviewed it would be classed as a pass, due to the tuck rule, and would have been incomplete had the ball fallen to the turf. But as we all know it never made it to the turf, was picked off in the air and taken for the winning TD. The bonehead part of Rodgers was that he intentionally tried to keep it going by sticking out his foot and knocking the ball back up in the air allowing it to be taken in the air. If Rodgers just lets it drop it's 4th and 6, and they can either go for it, or punt and the game would have still gone on.mhs95_06 wrote:I wouldn't say that was a "bonehead play", just an unfortunate result. Most of the time it would be 4th and 6, and if they go for it, AZ would be closing in on the short routes similar to what they were on the first down in OT when Rodgers and Jennings weren't on the same page for what should have been a game winning play, So I would have tried that same play again to win it on one play!IggyPride00 wrote: Aaron Rodgers right now is being lit up on Packers forums as Brett Favre reincarnated.
Play brilliantly all game, but make a bone head play/interception in crunch time to lose the team the game.
It's a shame because he played a great game leading them back, but I could see how they were feeling Deja vu seeing the game end in a very Favre like manner where you negate all the good you did with one play you would love to have back.
I thought Browns fans were brutal, but attacking a Qb that threw for 420+ and 4TD makes us look tame.