underoverthrow wrote: Had to pinch myself Sunday. I was @ West Holmes watching a match between a Northwestern kid & a Rittman kid...in a Rittman singlet...with Rittman coaches. Warmed the cochles of my heart.

Beast: nice bait. Looks like you got the thread pumping. I know for a fact Harter would NEVER back down from a challenge. I am starting to wonder if the field will diminish the Bears enough to allow an upset bid.

How did Norwayne do @ the Dies?

Fortune can & will win sections @ 119 & will go 119. Quote me on that in a month. He's good enough, smart enough & gosh darn it.....

Atopthesummit wrote:

1_beast wrote: yeah..the Golden Bears are terrible. They wrestle a weak schedule. They dont train hard.....but the fans are S.O.B'S...YOU JACKASSES bring nothing to the table...no wrestling jargon whatsoever.....next year, in a down year for the Bears, you will be blowing these boards up...talking about how good you are. Do yourself a favor and keep your sh!tty posts to yourself. Poor losers!!!!

Wow, I guess now we are seeing the true color's of the Waynedale folks.

My only questions is your signature. "THE BEARS HAVE "RELOADED" ?????? LOL
Don't you have to have once been loaded to have re-loaded?

falcon81 wrote: Red rum No offense but I think my point went right over your head. You have not and never will see me state what a certain kid will or won't do. I may state what I think a kid is capable of doing but I won''t declare a winner or put that kind of pressure on my kid or someone elses, they are kids. Sorry if that rubbed you wrong. You can declare a winner if you want , pound your chest , I just don't think its a good way to roll.The personal comment I don't get , I was defending Fortune , not my kid. Why put pressure on him was my point . He beat Zack in JR. high and He could beat him again, they will figure it out Iam sure more than once in their career . We may be just mis reading each others comments a little Iam sure. peace.
Beast how is Kikume ? We wrestled once , he was tough, nice kid. I had to work for that one. Does he live around here? I agree with your weight classes that will be brutal. 125 and 140 seem to be thin.

Red Rum wrote: Beast,
Yeah, I'm a geezer, ya busted me. I'm so old I actually got to shake hands with Howard Ferguson. I even remember when Mitch Lance pulled a couple upsets on his way to the state title in '83. The best memories by far were the Huber/Kikume battles and the Wayne county podium sweep in '84 at 167AA. Grapplers from Triway & Norwayne (Zody? & Ziegler? I think) got 3rd & 4th. To top it off, Bell of Cloverleaf and Teeple of Hillsdale both placed in class AAA & A. The 1984 area 167 class was a true meatgrinder.

Falcon,
I pretty much agree with how you roll, misread your messages meaning, I better get back on the prunes and geritol.

And now for another prediction,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think its been a few years since the NWN sectional produced a state champion (Dan Stiltner, Jesse Campbell, etc). This is the year someone will end the dryspell and bring home the big prize.

underoverthrow wrote: Falcon: I didn't know that you had a vested interest in the sectional results @ 119 & now understand where you could interpret my comments as directed at you, against your 119 or applying unnecessary pressure. I would like to restate my previous comment.

I believe that young Mr. Fortune has the physical tools, mental aptitude, endurance, and speed to create a remarkably high probability to overcome the potential challengers to his bid to a title at 119 pounds. In no way do I wish for Mr. Fortune to feel the need to accomplish the above to fullfill my prediction in any way. Furthermore I would like to express my diversion from any contact with my chest or anyone else's chest, be it direct or indirect. If he were it fail I promise to buy him a steak dinner to make amends.

THE4RINGZ wrote: I raised a wrestler, and I would say pressure is an inherint part of that sport. While it is considered a team sport, most of us on here know that it is the ultimate one on one sport. In any other team sport a multitude of things can happen that affect an indivduals performance. (The line missed a blocking assignment, someone was in the wrong defense, our outfielder missed a cut off throw) In wrestling it is man on man for three periods. All eyes are on you, and only you for that period of time. That is pressure. No different than if everyone else in your company stopped working for up to six minutes, and they brought in a few hundred spectators to watch you do your job, and your performance during that time dictated the success or failure of the company that day.

However, do I believe that there is more pressure on kids today? Absolutely. Sites like these and the accessibilty of information (or opinions) is easier to come by. Back in the day, if someone from three counties away saw you wrestle and wanted to debate your matches and/or your future, they were pretty limited to talking to other fans from there school, and chances were the kids would never find out about it. That is why I believe that current student athletes should not be allowed or permitted on sites like these. And people who read things about their kids or their teams on here should keep that under their hat. Don't perpetuate the rumors, or pressure.

Just the humble opinion of a guy who attended the Huber/Kikume matches in the 1980's.

firemans4five wrote: What are people's thoughts on the team race for sectionals?

WC80 wrote: 1st Tuslaw good depth and several guns
2nd Triway (WIT Champs)
3rd Manchester some big scorers
4th Waynedale solid led by Beam's
5th NWN big scorers and full team
6th Loudonville solid
7th Norwayne big scorers in low weights
8th Chipps Hall, Bramley, and Schafrath will score alot