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Jan 7, 2010 10:13 PM
Wow. To be honest, Crbbs is going about this all wrong. Making it a media spectical is only going to piss Holmgren off more.
Jan 7, 2010 10:13pm
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Jan 7, 2010 10:16 PM
Dawn Aponte should be fired immediately...
Jan 7, 2010 10:16pm
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TolCentralCath

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Jan 7, 2010 10:20 PM
Damnit Cleveland.
Jan 7, 2010 10:20pm
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Jan 7, 2010 10:27 PM
It is all posturing......they will get a deal done.
Jan 7, 2010 10:27pm
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Jan 7, 2010 10:31 PM
I think so too..Cribbs agent just trying to send Cleveland into panic mode IMO.
Jan 7, 2010 10:31pm
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Jan 7, 2010 11:15 PM
Cribbs will be in Cleveland next year, despite terrible fans that think he's an awful person for wanting more money.
Jan 7, 2010 11:15pm
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Jan 7, 2010 11:24 PM
Cribbs is 100% correct
Jan 7, 2010 11:24pm
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Jan 7, 2010 11:25 PM
No one thinks hes a bad person for wanting more money. Crying to STO, Twitter, and the media FOUR days after the season ended is not the professional way to get your message across. It also isn't very professional to sign a 5 year contract and want it renegotiated after ONE year. I agree he deserves something around 2 or a little over, but he needs to act more sensible.
Jan 7, 2010 11:25pm
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Jan 7, 2010 11:35 PM
iclfan2 wrote: Wow. To be honest, Crbbs is going about this all wrong. Making it a media spectical is only going to piss Holmgren off more.
Haha! So what? He might go to another team and make more money.
Jan 7, 2010 11:35pm
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Jan 7, 2010 11:40 PM
iclfan2 wrote: No one thinks hes a bad person for wanting more money. Crying to STO, Twitter, and the media FOUR days after the season ended is not the professional way to get your message across. It also isn't very professional to sign a 5 year contract and want it renegotiated after ONE year. I agree he deserves something around 2 or a little over, but he needs to act more sensible.
He didn't ask for it to be renegotiated. Savage told him that the team was going to reward him and a couple other players following the 2007 season, and the deal never got worked out in 2008, or prior to 2009 despite promises from Mangini, Kokonis, Crennel, Savage and Lerner.

The guy just wants what the Browns came up to him a couple years ago and promised him.

You guys act like he's a prima donna, and he's done nothing to suggest that. He's kept his mouth shut for two seasons after he's gotten jerked around and lied to. Now he's coming to claim his check after breaking the NFL record for KR touchdowns.

Not to mention, he's asking for another 1M added onto the joke of a deal they offered him. He's not even suggesting Hester money, like some of you people keep thinking.
Jan 7, 2010 11:40pm
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Jan 8, 2010 1:11 AM
dude has no leverage...nobody held a gun to his head forcing him to sign that contract

i agree he needs more money (and will ultimately get it imo) but he needs to stop being douchey
Jan 8, 2010 1:11am
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Jan 8, 2010 1:14 AM
In the NFL, there's no such thing as a guaranteed contract. Teams go to players and say "Accept this massive pay cut or we'll throw you out in the street".

I'll never fault an NFL player for wanting to renegotiate mid-contract.
Jan 8, 2010 1:14am
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Jan 8, 2010 1:49 AM
NNN wrote: In the NFL, there's no such thing as a guaranteed contract. Teams go to players and say "Accept this massive pay cut or we'll throw you out in the street".

I'll never fault an NFL player for wanting to renegotiate mid-contract.
It's true that NFL contracts are not guaranteed per se. However, many NFL players do in fact recieve a large portion of their money frontloaded...somewhat circumventing the rules. I.E. Signing bonuses exceeding 50% of their 3 year deal for example.
Jan 8, 2010 1:49am
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Jan 8, 2010 5:31 AM
Demand a trade or not, the Browns have him under contract. It's not like he would actually sit out a season. Whether he was 'promised' a new deal or not, he needs to remember that if it isn't on paper, it never happened.
Jan 8, 2010 5:31am
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Jan 8, 2010 8:44 AM
Footwedge wrote:
NNN wrote: In the NFL, there's no such thing as a guaranteed contract. Teams go to players and say "Accept this massive pay cut or we'll throw you out in the street".

I'll never fault an NFL player for wanting to renegotiate mid-contract.
It's true that NFL contracts are not guaranteed per se. However, many NFL players do in fact recieve a large portion of their money frontloaded...somewhat circumventing the rules. I.E. Signing bonuses exceeding 50% of their 3 year deal for example.


It's actually the other way around.

Generally contracts are backloaded, so that teams can spend more money in the current year and then they can evaluate and cut them if they don't feel they're worth the money in the long run.
Jan 8, 2010 8:44am
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Jan 8, 2010 9:16 AM
He's under contract. If he didn't like his original contract he shouldn't have signed it. I just dont' get it.
Jan 8, 2010 9:16am
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Jan 8, 2010 9:35 AM
he will be rewarded for his play, alot of dust to settle in Berea
Jan 8, 2010 9:35am
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Jan 8, 2010 9:39 AM
thedynasty1998 wrote: He's under contract. If he didn't like his original contract he shouldn't have signed it. I just dont' get it.
He was approached about his original contract, and Savage and Crennel approached him about adding some money on his contract, and told him they'd "take care of him" prior to the 2008 season. After we go through that season, we get Mangini and Kokonis who went to him and explained that they were aware he was promised a new contract, and said that "they'd take care of him", prior to the 2009 season. Here it is, the end of the 2009 season, and he's just asking for the money that somebody else approached him about and promised him.

He's kept his mouth shut and played his game for 2 seasons. He deserves it.
Jan 8, 2010 9:39am
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Jan 8, 2010 10:59 AM
Well there's a new boss in town.
Jan 8, 2010 10:59am
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Jan 8, 2010 11:15 AM
iclfan2 wrote: No one thinks hes a bad person for wanting more money. Crying to STO, Twitter, and the media FOUR days after the season ended is not the professional way to get your message across. It also isn't very professional to sign a 5 year contract and want it renegotiated after ONE year. I agree he deserves something around 2 or a little over, but he needs to act more sensible.
Could not have said it any better.

Cribbs and/or his agent are being stupid in how they are handling this.
Jan 8, 2010 11:15am
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Jan 8, 2010 11:28 AM
DaBrowns41 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
NNN wrote: In the NFL, there's no such thing as a guaranteed contract. Teams go to players and say "Accept this massive pay cut or we'll throw you out in the street".

I'll never fault an NFL player for wanting to renegotiate mid-contract.
It's true that NFL contracts are not guaranteed per se. However, many NFL players do in fact recieve a large portion of their money frontloaded...somewhat circumventing the rules. I.E. Signing bonuses exceeding 50% of their 3 year deal for example.


It's actually the other way around.

Generally contracts are backloaded, so that teams can spend more money in the current year and then they can evaluate and cut them if they don't feel they're worth the money in the long run.
Some are backloaded...but the new trend is for more money being frontloaded, guaranteed w/ incentives as well. The days of just cutting the player is not nearly as attractive as it was just a few short years ago. Virtually every first round pick has in place a huge signing bonus, which in essence puts ownership on a very precarious hook if the player shits the bed.

Look it up.
Jan 8, 2010 11:28am
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Jan 8, 2010 12:24 PM
Footwedge wrote:
DaBrowns41 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
NNN wrote: In the NFL, there's no such thing as a guaranteed contract. Teams go to players and say "Accept this massive pay cut or we'll throw you out in the street".

I'll never fault an NFL player for wanting to renegotiate mid-contract.
It's true that NFL contracts are not guaranteed per se. However, many NFL players do in fact recieve a large portion of their money frontloaded...somewhat circumventing the rules. I.E. Signing bonuses exceeding 50% of their 3 year deal for example.


It's actually the other way around.

Generally contracts are backloaded, so that teams can spend more money in the current year and then they can evaluate and cut them if they don't feel they're worth the money in the long run.
Some are backloaded...but the new trend is for more money being frontloaded, guaranteed w/ incentives as well. The days of just cutting the player is not nearly as attractive as it was just a few short years ago. Virtually every first round pick has in place a huge signing bonus, which in essence puts ownership on a very precarious hook if the player shits the bed.

Look it up.
Exactly, but don't tell Dabrowns41, or, I mean Andre Knott, to look anything up. He knows his shit, he's got his own blog for god's sake. Chad Ochocinco, Anquan Boldin, now Josh Cribbs. Chad got 8.5 million in bonus money his first two seasons, then of course, wants to renegotiate his deal. Boldin received his 5 million signing bonus, then all of a sudden wants to rework his deal. Cribbs signed his extension, took his 2m bonus, then the very next year asked for a new deal. Notice the trend?
Jan 8, 2010 12:24pm