like_that;1879650 wrote: I stand by my comment, they are incompetent for even trying to execute this trade.

BR1986FB;1879703 wrote:Having more time to digest this, your comment is the biggest elephant in the room. This front office has talked about their "process", their "plan" and they stockpile all of these picks, trading down, avoiding pulling the trigger on a legit QB. You have all of this draft capital and THIS is your solution? Offering a 2nd & 3rd for AJ Fucking McCarron. Some guy from CBSSports.com or some other media outlet was mocking a 'Andy Dalton to the Browns for a 2nd & 5th" and these morons offer a 2nd & 3rd for his BACKUP?

To me this was a "oh shit, we screwed up and left at 5pm on Monday and let SF steal Garoppolo from us so we have to make some effort to satisfy Hue" desperation move.

If I'm the Haslam's I freeze ALL assets and not allow these jokers to make ANY moves. They should've been fired at 4:05pm for even THINKING about this move.

And I'm far from sold on Kizer but what does this do for his confidence, if he even has any? "We want to see what we have in you, ohh you suck so we're trading for a QB and you'll be the backup, oops we screwed up on the trade, you're back to being the starter....you've been OUR guy ALL along."

I firmly believe that the fans can make better personnel decisions than these idiots.

like_that;1879708 wrote:Yup, I believe you covered all bases regarding McCarron. The bigger story was the fact they actually were going to give up a 2nd and 3rd for a guy who can’t even beat out Dalton.

like_that;1879708 wrote: Btw, since this is the Browns drama thread I am going to call it now without any sources. Haslem doesn’t want to fire anyone, because he is a fucking knee jerk idiot and is already paying multiple coaches/execs that are long gone. I’m sure he doesn’t want to pay another group that won’t be employed by the Browns.

friendfromlowry;1879716 wrote:What makes you believe the Bengals are capable of recognizing that McCarron may actually be better than Dalton and should be starting? They hate change. Otherwise, Pacman/Marvin Lewis would have been gone years ago.

Gardens35;1879722 wrote:Read Bud Shaw........www.cleveland.com

iclfan2;1879751 wrote:So there is no way Hue makes it out of this alive right? He wanted the trade to happen, which makes him a moron. Every few years its like yea change, this time give them time, then they are so shitty fans turn before 2 seasons are even up.

iclfan2;1879751 wrote:So there is no way Hue makes it out of this alive right? He wanted the trade to happen, which makes him a moron. Every few years its like yea change, this time give them time, then they are so shitty fans turn before 2 seasons are even up.

BR1986FB;1879756 wrote:The worst part about this is the personnel fit.

BR1986FB;1879756 wrote:The worst part about this is the personnel fit. They bring in Gregg Williams (who I'd like to see stay to see what he could do with some secondary talent) and they have to find personnel that fit his scheme. They blow it up, bring in a coach that runs a 3-4 and the personnel doesn't fit. They then have to gut the personnel and we're back to square one. This isn't such a big deal on offense but it can be on D.

kizer permanente;1879760 wrote:I want no part of Gregg Williams anymore. Dudes clueless.

SportsAndLady;1879768 wrote:I don’t agree with this.

The D hasn’t been awful, and that’s with an awful offense. The run D has been one of the top in the league. Gregg Williams can’t make magic happen, he’s been fine this year. Keep him on.

SportsAndLady;1879768 wrote:I don’t agree with this.

The D hasn’t been awful, and that’s with an awful offense. The run D has been one of the top in the league. Gregg Williams can’t make magic happen, he’s been fine this year. Keep him on.

BR1986FB;1879775 wrote:This. He has taken a unit (run defense) that has been historically rotten since 1999 and turned it around. I said previously that I think they have one of the top front 7's in football. Their secondary blows. If Garrett can stay healthy, they can add another bookend pass rusher and a few pieces in the secondary, this defense can be really good.

I hate it when Williams aligns his safety out in Lake Erie but I think he's just trying to cover up just how bad that unit is and doesn't want them getting beaten over the top. Better personnel back there and I highly doubt we see the safety playing way out there.

TBone14;1879794 wrote:I was on the road this morning and looking forward to getting back to the office for the sole reason of reading this thread. It hasn't disappointed.

Commander of Awesome;1879792 wrote:Greg Williams is the least of our issues. There is no excuse for Jimmy G to not be in Berea today, none. And that is on Sashi. He has to fucking go, total fuckboi.