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Belly35

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Looting in Florida before the storm … looting in Houston before residents could get back to their homes

You loot I shoot

During this time of devastation, how far should property owner rights/ authority have to protect their property?
Sep 11, 2017 9:27am
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Belly35;1871104 wrote:Looting in Florida before the storm … looting in Houston before residents could get back to their homes

You loot I shoot

During this time of devastation, how far should property owner rights/ authority have to protect their property?

Hopefully the home/business owners are more focused on their personal well being than material things. This is why home/businesses owners have insurance.
Sep 11, 2017 10:06am
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I think if you're alive without being on machines, then your well-being is fine. Then the focus is on getting back to your home and saving as many things as you can, building a new home. In the interim, looters take the risk and therefore any consequences that result from that risk.

I don't even know if Fla. and Texas have "castle laws" and too lazy to dig it up. Cheers!
Sep 11, 2017 1:59pm
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salto;1871117 wrote:Hopefully the home/business owners are more focused on their personal well being than material things. This is why home/businesses owners have insurance.
So you Just basically condone looting?
Sep 11, 2017 6:34pm
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Certainly do not condone allowing citizens to just "shoot away" at looters. This isn't a lawless society. That being said, if you loot during natural disasters, you're a piece of shit.
Sep 11, 2017 6:46pm
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SportsAndLady;1871200 wrote:Certainly do not condone allowing citizens to just "shoot away" at looters. This isn't a lawless society. That being said, if you loot during natural disasters, you're a piece of shit.
I 100% condone it. If you're dumb enough to loot/ rob a business at all, regardless of a storm, you deserve what you get.


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Sep 11, 2017 7:19pm
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iclfan2;1871204 wrote:I 100% condone it. If you're dumb enough to loot/ rob a business at all, regardless of a storm, you deserve what you get.


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I don't think someone who steals sneakers deserves death lol
Sep 11, 2017 7:37pm
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Ehh to each his own. If it were my own business I'd easily shoot. If you try to steal from hard working Americans I don't care what happens to you


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Sep 11, 2017 7:57pm
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iclfan2;1871206 wrote:Ehh to each his own. If it were my own business I'd easily shoot. If you try to steal from hard working Americans I don't care what happens to you


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I meant more people going out and shooting people who are looting.

If a business owner is in his business and someone breaks in and steals, shoot away
Sep 11, 2017 8:05pm
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SportsAndLady;1871205 wrote:I don't think someone who steals sneakers deserves death lol
Don't loot and don't take the chance of getting shot, easy decision. Taking advantage of a disaster to make personal gain of others belongings is a choice made by a pos. If my family or myself are intruded by looters I would shoot, they have no business at my home but to commit a crime.
Sep 11, 2017 8:13pm
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SportsAndLady;1871205 wrote:I don't think someone who steals sneakers deserves death lol
If you don't want shot.....don't steal sneakers. Last time I checked the law doesn't care what you are stealing
Sep 11, 2017 8:14pm
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Spock;1871215 wrote:Last time I checked the law doesn't care what you are stealing
Like tax payers' money, teaching gym! :RpS_flapper:
Sep 11, 2017 8:50pm
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CenterBHSFan;1871150 wrote:I think if you're alive without being on machines, then your well-being is fine. Then the focus is on getting back to your home and saving as many things as you can, building a new home. In the interim, looters take the risk and therefore any consequences that result from that risk.

I don't even know if Fla. and Texas have "castle laws" and too lazy to dig it up. Cheers!
As of 2014, Texas did have a law on the books authorizing deadly force to protect "land or tangible, movable property" - not sure how restrictive the fine print makes, though:

http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-9-42.html

Every since seeing that movie "The Perfect Guy", I'm wondering if you're a store owner in your store, someone breaks the window and enters, you fire a shotgun with beanbag round (supposedly that's a warning shot), then you fire again with live buckshot when they keep going.

Or suppose you play a recording that sounds like the ED-209 that says, "Stop looting or I will use deadly force - you have 3 seconds to comply", then fire away when they don't. Are you in the clear for having giving sufficient notice?
Sep 11, 2017 9:26pm
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http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5278638&page=1
Texas pretty much let's you shoot anyone committing a crime (rightfully so, whether your property or not). Not sure what you're talking about with bean bags (end up killed) or some recording. People know they're being a piece of shit, they don't need a warning to know they might die doing so


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Sep 11, 2017 9:38pm
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iclfan2;1871222 wrote: Not sure what you're talking about with ........ some recording. People know they're being a piece of shit, they don't need a warning to know they might die doing so
You're right, but it never hurts to be polite and go the extra mile first - doesn't anyone watch Robocop anymore? :)

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Sep 12, 2017 6:59am
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I'd follow these guys lead. I'd make it very clear that you're going to win a stupid prize if you play a stupid game at my store.



Sep 12, 2017 8:53am
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Zunardo;1871262 wrote:You're right, but it never hurts to be polite and go the extra mile first - doesn't anyone watch Robocop anymore? :)

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lulz
Sep 12, 2017 11:13am
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Spock;1871199 wrote:So you Just basically condone looting?
Nope.
Sep 12, 2017 11:23am
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Spock;1871215 wrote:If you don't want shot.....don't steal sneakers. Last time I checked the law doesn't care what you are stealing
Typical Trump gun fanatic. They are thankful for a reason to legally shoot someone.
Sep 12, 2017 11:24am
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Fuck the legal system, let's just commit murder.

I love the OC!
Sep 12, 2017 11:27am
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Automatik;1871297 wrote:Fuck the legal system, let's just commit murder.

I love the OC!
Well, it can technically be considered defensive force, i.e. not murder legally, depending on your location.

That said, the threat of force is likely enough to dissuade looters. Most reasonable people would agree, dying/killing over a new tv or a pair of sneakers just isn't worth it.
Sep 12, 2017 11:32am
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salto;1871295 wrote:Typical Trump gun fanatic. They are thankful for a reason to legally shoot someone.
Pretty easy defence. Someone comes in your business or home and you shoot them. Pretty simple to claim self defense. You act like the shooter is the only one at fault here
Sep 12, 2017 11:43am
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Now, I wouldn't be surprised if some of yahoo's in this thread would shoot a guy in the face for stealing a pack of Juicy Fruit. Which I would agree is absurd.
Sep 12, 2017 11:44am
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justincredible;1871302 wrote:Now, I wouldn't be surprised if some of yahoo's in this thread would shoot a guy in the face for stealing a pack of Juicy Fruit. Which I would agree is absurd.
A sixer of really good beer, OTOH...
Sep 12, 2017 1:30pm
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Bio-Hazzzzard;1871214 wrote:Don't loot and don't take the chance of getting shot, easy decision. Taking advantage of a disaster to make personal gain of others belongings is a choice made by a pos. If my family or myself are intruded by looters I would shoot, they have no business at my home but to commit a crime.
Bio-H how is everything, is there anything I or donation support the OC can do to help. I really dont care about you but those guns and that range on your property i have feeling for...hahahah :) How are the wife and kids doing, hope you get back home and not much damage has been done. Take care friend...
Sep 12, 2017 2:23pm