Maybe....but don’t see him as much help at this point. OBJ not in JacksonvilleBR1986FB;1883722 wrote:Welcome to Jacksonville, Eli !
Or Cleveland *puts gun to head*BR1986FB;1883722 wrote:Welcome to Jacksonville, Eli !
If we hire Manning I could easily see this happening. It would more so be a sit the rookie behind him and have Eli mentor him situation though.SportsAndLady;1883734 wrote:Or Cleveland *puts gun to head*
But Blake Bortles and Tom Coughlin are.Ironman92;1883726 wrote:OBJ not in Jacksonville
I don’t see what Coughlin can help. Eli isn’t very good anymore. I think the Jags with Eli are virtually the same.BR1986FB;1883740 wrote:But Blake Bortles and Tom Coughlin are.
Eli has never been very good.Ironman92;1883744 wrote:I don’t see what Coughlin can help. Eli isn’t very good anymore. I think the Jags with Eli are virtually the same.
I agree but he used to be a bit better. I would take Flacco over EliMulva;1883757 wrote:Eli has never been very good.
Bortles = 12 TD's, 8 INT's, 2200+ yards with a strong running game and a lockdown defenseIronman92;1883744 wrote:I don’t see what Coughlin can help. Eli isn’t very good anymore. I think the Jags with Eli are virtually the same.
Would take Eli. Starting Geno is a jokeIronman92;1883767 wrote:I agree but he used to be a bit better. I would take Flacco over Eli
Exactly.Heretic;1883898 wrote:The only advantage Flacco has over Eli is that he's a bit younger. Other than that, he's basically an inferior version of him (can be great, can be mistake-prone, has habit of transforming into a super-clutch guy in the postseason). And so far this year, he's put up numbers that make Eli look like Pro Bowl material in comparison.
If Eli greatly improved the completion% on their plays or turnovers that Bortles makes he could.BR1986FB;1883902 wrote:Exactly.
The reason I mentioned Eli to JAX is the connection to Coughlin and they are ready to win now. Plug in a QB that's better than a game manager ((Eli is but he's far from elite) and they can contend in the AFC. Putting him in that situation would be similar to the two years he won titles (strong run game, smothering defense). Just need him to make some plays. Do I think the Jags win a title with him? Unlikely, but he'd get them closer than Bortles.
Eli Manning is a 'dependent" QB. The people around him (O-Line, WR's, running game) have to be good in order for him to function at a high level. His skills haven't diminished. He can still function at a high level but needs parts around him to be just "so." I know JAX has a pretty solid O-Line and running game. Not overly familiar with their WR situation but that could be remedied in the offseason. Manning isn't like a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady where he can win without the perfect O-Line, etc but he's still a very solid (not elite) QB when he has these pieces.Ironman92;1883951 wrote:If Eli greatly improved the completion% on their plays or turnovers that Bortles makes he could.
Right now in their careers I just have Flacco and Manning very very close in the back middle portion of the QB rankings.
Coughlin is the biggest part of Eli being a good improvement over Bortles to help them win
Sadly I’ve seen about 5 of the Jags games. Their receivers are not any better than the Giants back ups being used. Bortles is not good at hitting tough passes and below average at completing the ones we expect NFL guys to make. What he does add is that he’s a decently productive guy on the move. He has 250 some yards, couple TD and I believe 16 first downs running the ball on set or scrambling plays.BR1986FB;1883983 wrote:Eli Manning is a 'dependent" QB. The people around him (O-Line, WR's, running game) have to be good in order for him to function at a high level. His skills haven't diminished. He can still function at a high level but needs parts around him to be just "so." I know JAX has a pretty solid O-Line and running game. Not overly familiar with their WR situation but that could be remedied in the offseason. Manning isn't like a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady where he can win without the perfect O-Line, etc but he's still a very solid (not elite) QB when he has these pieces.
Someone will probably roll the dice on him in the offseason to be their starter.thavoice;1884033 wrote:
Unless keenum delivers a long playoff run he is done.
Ross Tucker (Sirius XM) had Greg Cosell on this morning discussing Eli and Cosell said that a lot of Eli's issue lately have been due to their crappy O-Line and no running game. Cosell said Manning is "anticipating" sacks when sometimes they are coming, some times not, and it's affected him over the past few years.SportsAndLady;1884057 wrote:There really isn’t a nice spot for Eli because he’s awful. He’s been awful for 3 years he just has been able to cover that up with OBJ doing his thing.
Here in Cincinnati, we call that Andy Dalton syndrome. Tbe best cure is to schedule 2 games against the Browns.BR1986FB;1884060 wrote:Ross Tucker (Sirius XM) had Greg Cosell on this morning discussing Eli and Cosell said that a lot of Eli's issue lately have been due to their crappy O-Line and no running game. Cosell said Manning is "anticipating" sacks when sometimes they are coming, some times not, and it's affected him over the past few years.
FIFY.Ironman92;1884005 wrote:Skins at Boys tonight....loser and winner completely done with playoff hopes. If Skins don’t make playoffs I don’t think they sign Cousins and I think they kinda hope they don’t have to sign him to the huge money.