Otto Warmbier

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friendfromlowry
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Jun 16, 2017 10:15am
Anyone following along with this? He was taken prisoner in North Korea back in December 2015 after trying to remove a propaganda poster in an employee-only section of the airport. After a "trial" he was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. Fast forward to this week where he's abruptly released on humanitarian grounds and shipped back to Cincinnati where he was found to be in a coma. I remember reading this earlier in the week and thinking he was going to be brain dead as shit, which sounds like is the case unfortunately. North Korea blames it on a combo of botulism/sleeping meds, which both I think have been disproven by UC hospital doctors so far.

Can't imagine why anyone would want to travel to there, let alone fuck around with government property there.
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Dr Winston O'Boogie
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Jun 16, 2017 11:18am
This is a horrible story. He should never have gone there. But he was a kid who was probably very curious. Sometimes people that age don't think through the consequences. Regardless of the reasons, he certainly didn't deserve this fate. Unfortunately there is nothing surprising about crazy-ass N Korea.
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Spock
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Jun 16, 2017 11:32am
It is utterly amazing that millions of people would live this way. They must not have any idea what freedom is like, if they did they would overthrow the government.
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4cards
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Jun 16, 2017 1:45pm
...young people from the USA tend to forget that when you're not in this country, really bad things can happen to you abroad. How many times do you hear about young people trying to smuggle drugs and wind up with a life sentence....just dumb but it's that country's rules. Here in our country, it would be considered free speech....there PRISON if you're lucky!
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iclfan2
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Jun 16, 2017 1:51pm
Still wondering why he went to North Korea. You're an idiot to travel there. Def didn't deserve what happened to him obviously.
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SportsAndLady
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Jun 16, 2017 2:04pm
If you're dumb enough to go to North Korea, I have zero empathy for what happens to you there.
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QuakerOats
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Jun 16, 2017 2:59pm
Yeah, but Dennis Rodman ...........
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gut
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Jun 16, 2017 3:11pm
Seems like doctors saw no signs of physical abuse...makes you wonder what the hell they did to cause a coma. Something to do with oxygen deprivation probably.
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Laley23
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Jun 16, 2017 3:15pm
How does a body heal if in a coma? Like, if he was tortured in a way to cause it, would his injuries heal themselves over time?

Cause reports saying the coma came shorty after his arrest versus recently. That's about year difference. Could NK be lying about the timing and they were waiting to release him until his injuries had healed?
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gut
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Jun 16, 2017 3:25pm
Laley23;1859328 wrote: Cause reports saying the coma came shorty after his arrest versus recently. That's about year difference. Could NK be lying about the timing and they were waiting to release him until his injuries had healed?
Your body would heal itself, but I think bones and muscles not so much without activity to return to normal. Plus, with only about a year I think doctors can tell if there were severe physical trauma - they still see the signs/scarring on healed muscle tissue and bones on an MRI.
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Jun 16, 2017 3:53pm
gut;1859334 wrote:Your body would heal itself, but I think bones and muscles not so much without activity to return to normal. Plus, with only about a year I think doctors can tell if there were severe physical trauma - they still see the signs/scarring on healed muscle tissue and bones on an MRI.
Thanks.
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Jun 16, 2017 4:19pm
Those were some terrible consequences for a bad decision. I feel for his parents.
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gut
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Jun 16, 2017 4:21pm
FatHobbit;1859338 wrote:Those were some terrible consequences for a bad decision. I feel for his parents.
They were happy to see their son again and have him home....but seems like maybe they are in a little bit of denial about his condition.
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Jun 16, 2017 4:51pm
they were probably doing experiments on him and messed up his brain
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Jun 16, 2017 6:08pm
Spock;1859342 wrote:they were probably doing experiments on him and messed up his brain
Thanks Sean Hannity.
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friendfromlowry
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Jun 16, 2017 8:00pm
Spock;1859342 wrote:they were probably doing experiments on him and messed up his brain
I am kind of wondering about this. Once they realized he wasn't coming back they were like "whoops. okay you can have him back now. he was food poisoned btw"
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Spock
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Jun 16, 2017 9:18pm
Maybe they were trying the whole Manchurian candidate thing
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salto
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Jun 17, 2017 11:01am
Drumpfs approval rating would go up if he dropped a few Moabs on NK.

Fuck 'em.
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Laley23
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Jun 19, 2017 4:52pm
Otto has passed away.
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Jun 19, 2017 4:54pm
Laley23;1859561 wrote:Otto has passed away.
Just saw that about 2 minutes ago. Sad case.

Question: What should happen concerning this case now?
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Jun 19, 2017 5:08pm
CenterBHSFan;1859562 wrote:

Question: What should happen concerning this case now?
I'm for bombing Pyongyang.
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superman
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Jun 19, 2017 6:05pm
salto;1859567 wrote:I'm for bombing Pyongyang.
Well, you're a retard, so...
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Jun 19, 2017 6:14pm
CenterBHSFan;1859562 wrote:Just saw that about 2 minutes ago. Sad case.

Question: What should happen concerning this case now?
what should happen and what will not happen is the bigger question. I will say, nothing will happen and nothing going to happen. Little diplomatic talk, half ass bunch of groups will spout off and politician will speak with concern then enjoy a Korea salad for lunch. The UN will sit with their thumbs up their ass. N. Korea will say we killed him and say nothing after that.
I would take any N. Korea criminals we have about 25 and body bomb the N Korea capital around 5:00 , return to sender ....splat, splat, splat
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Jun 19, 2017 11:17pm
Belly35;1859579 wrote: Little diplomatic talk, half ass bunch of groups will spout off and politician will speak with concern then enjoy a Korea salad for lunch.
not my president
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gut
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Jun 20, 2017 11:28am
Hate to say it, but while this is a horrible tragedy, if you look around the world I don't think the UN will lose any sleep over one guy who should have known better than to go to NK and commit petty theft.